Hi Nat,

Whichever way the input file for the run is prepared (via GUI or command line), anybody who doesn't inspect the log file at the end of the run is doomed and bound to commit senseless errors. I was taught a long time ago that computers always do what you told them to do and not what you think you told them, which is why inspecting the log file helps. BTW, I find the GUI's (ccp4i or phenix) as great help in preparing the command file, certainly the skeleton which can then be modified and run via the command line if needed.

  Cheers,

               Boaz
 
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From: CCP4 bulletin board [CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK] on behalf of Nat Echols [nathaniel.ech...@gmail.com]
Sent: Friday, April 12, 2013 8:38 PM
To: CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK
Subject: Re: [ccp4bb] CCP4 Update victim of own success

On Fri, Apr 12, 2013 at 10:27 AM, James Holton <jmhol...@lbl.gov> wrote:
But, when it comes to GUIs, I have always found them counterproductive.  In my humble opinion, the purpose of computers and other machines is to DO work for me, not create work for me, and I already have enough buttons to push each day.

This is a very defensible position with regards to your normal workflow (or mine) - but beamline scientists (or software developers) are not very representative of crystallographers as a group.  I've seen a lot of reflexive anti-GUI mentality from users who don't fall into either category, presumably because a senior postdoc or PI told them "real crystallographers use the command line", when in reality they'd be better served by figuring out on their own what workflow is most efficient for them.

-Nat

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