Hi Andrew,

Here are those references:

for CH...O hydrogen bonds I'd recommend our review: "Carbon-Oxygen Hydrogen
Bonding in Biological Structure and Function" (2012)
http://www.jbc.org/content/287/50/41576.full

for chalcogen bonds, I don't know of a great recent review, but this recent
article (2016) has a whole bunch of references (listed under 19 and 20) on
it: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/27992115

Scott

On Tue, Dec 20, 2016 at 8:45 PM, Andrew Marshall <
andrew.c.marsh...@adelaide.edu.au> wrote:

> Hi Scott,
>
> That would be great if you have some references handy?
> Thanks very much,
>
> Andrew Marshall
> PhD Candidate
> Laboratory of Protein Crystallography
> Dept. of Molecular and Cellular Biology
> School of Biological Sciences
> The University of Adelaide
>
> On Wed, Dec 21, 2016 at 1:48 AM, Scott Horowitz <horow...@umich.edu>
> wrote:
>
>> Hi Andrew,
>>
>> Based on the atoms and distances you are mentioning, these don't sound
>> like steric clashes, but like a chalcogen bond between the S and O atoms,
>> and CH...O hydrogen bonds between the O and CH3. These are common and
>> well-accepted interactions, but unfortunately aren't usually treated as
>> such by refinement programs. Let me know if you want references for these
>> interaction types.
>>
>> Scott
>>
>> On Mon, Dec 19, 2016 at 8:48 PM, Andrew Marshall <
>> andrew.c.marsh...@adelaide.edu.au> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi all,
>>>
>>> Thank you for your suggestions. I tried the pdb file edit (making the
>>> offending atoms of both the ligand and the protein 'B' altconf), but it
>>> didn't seem to make any difference to their positions after a single round
>>> of refinement..?
>>> The atoms in the active site concern two acetyl groups - one from the
>>> substrate, acetyl-CoA, and the other from an acetylated cysteine in the
>>> protein - that I believe are poised ready for a condensation reaction. The
>>> closest contacts are between S and O(carbonyl) atoms (2.9A) and O and CH3
>>> (3.1A), but going off the density, I think these should be closer (more
>>> like 2.8 or 2.7A). It may be that I've trapped another reaction
>>> intermediate (which would be cool), but I don't think that fits the density
>>> quite as well. Any thoughts/ideas?
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>>
>>> Andrew Marshall
>>> PhD Candidate
>>> Laboratory of Protein Crystallography
>>> Dept. of Molecular and Cellular Biology
>>> School of Biological Sciences
>>> The University of Adelaide
>>>
>>> On Tue, Dec 20, 2016 at 12:09 AM, Scott Horowitz <horow...@umich.edu>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hi Andrew,
>>>>
>>>> I'm curious- what are the atoms that are clashing? I worked on this
>>>> sort of thing back in my Ph.D., and so I might have some useful tidbits if,
>>>> for example, the S is clashing with a carbon of some sort.
>>>>
>>>> Thanks,
>>>> Scott
>>>>
>>>> On Mon, Dec 19, 2016 at 12:39 AM, Andrew Marshall <
>>>> andrew.c.marsh...@adelaide.edu.au> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Hi all,
>>>>>
>>>>> I have a structure of a condensing enzyme with substrate bound. The
>>>>> active site is very tight, requiring some of the substrate atoms to clash
>>>>> with a catalytic cysteine. This means that although the substrate fits the
>>>>> density nicely upon manual real-space refinement, phenix recognises the
>>>>> clash, resulting in the displacement of substrate atoms so that they are
>>>>> outside the density. I can mostly fix this by using distance restraints,
>>>>> but I'd rather allow it to refine in a less biased manner, but ignore the
>>>>> clash. Is this a acceptable way forward? If so, is there a parameter I can
>>>>> edit to tell phenix to ignore clashes between these specific atoms?
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>
>>>>> Andrew Marshall
>>>>> PhD Candidate
>>>>> Laboratory of Protein Crystallography
>>>>> Dept. of Molecular and Cellular Biology
>>>>> School of Biological Sciences
>>>>> The University of Adelaide
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Scott Horowitz, Ph.D.
>>>> Postdoctoral Fellow
>>>>
>>>> University of Michigan
>>>> Department of Molecular, Cellular, and Developmental Biology
>>>> Bardwell lab
>>>> 830 N. University Ave, Room 4007
>>>> Ann Arbor, MI 48109
>>>> phone: 734-647-6683
>>>> fax: 734-615-4226
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> Scott Horowitz, Ph.D.
>> Postdoctoral Fellow
>>
>> University of Michigan
>> Department of Molecular, Cellular, and Developmental Biology
>> Bardwell lab
>> 830 N. University Ave, Room 4007
>> Ann Arbor, MI 48109
>> phone: 734-647-6683
>> fax: 734-615-4226
>>
>
>


-- 
Scott Horowitz, Ph.D.
Postdoctoral Fellow

University of Michigan
Department of Molecular, Cellular, and Developmental Biology
Bardwell lab
830 N. University Ave, Room 4007
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