Dear all,

Just a note as we have been experimenting with this lately after some lost 
shipments.

We went with Lightbug pro and are ordering more of those.
https://lightbug.io/product/pro/

One can customize it to send updates only when moving out of the premises or 
geofence to significantly lower the costs of updates and there is an API one 
can use for integration. It is also not limited to Apple ecosystem as we do not 
need to have an iDevice to connect to it and there does not need to be an 
iPhone in the storage facility where the lost dewar is. We aim to add a dewar 
management and tracking system to the IceBear we use to track crystallization, 
crystals and data  (this feature not yet available) and that is also why these 
features are rather important for us.
https://icebear.fi/

This is just one possibility but based on the testing we have been happy with 
this solution. And of course, since we started using it, the couriers have not 
lost any dry shippers.

Best wishes,

Lari


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Sent: Friday, July 28, 2023 3:34 PM
To: [email protected] <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [ccp4bb] Dry shipper in limbo

The AirTag is a good idea, I shall implement that. I’ve had samples stuck from 
Canada to US, also in Memphis. It was just protein on dry ice but needless to 
say when it arrived it was very dry but no ice.
Hopefully you will be lucky and retrieve your samples within the next 14 days.

Jürgen

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Center for Global Health & Diseases
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On Jul 28, 2023, at 07:50, Jon Cooper 
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>>
 wrote:

Hello, I don't do anything MAC but maybe shipping dewars would be a good 
situation for an Apple Airtag, which I read about recently, or equivalent, if 
there are any?

Best wishes, Jon Cooper. 
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On 28 Jul 2023, 08:56, Savvas Savvides < 
[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>>
 wrote:

Dear Kevin,

A similar incident from just two weeks ago, in Europe in our case, was resolved 
by travelling to the regional FedEx package collection/distribution center to 
recover the dry-shipper in person. This involved gaining access to the FedEx 
center and talking to the right people.

I would absolutely not wait this out because your shipment is probably 
somewhere in the corner of a distribution center used as a seat by employees 
taking a break. I can attest to the fact that they do have such corners where 
“problematic" shipments are piled up!

Despite what you were told on the phone or could deduce from any online 
tracking systems (in our case the dry-shipper was not even trackable), there is 
still a (very good) chance that your shipment might still be at a regional 
collection/distribution center.

The key is to get to any information about where this place might be, talk to 
the local people, and find out what the actual route of the shipment might have 
been after getting picked up from your lab. The routes often involve 
intermediate collection/distribution sites.

To their credit, and in contrast to the general FedEx customer service, the 
people at the regional FedEx distribution center (including the shift manager) 
were very empathic and helpful, and used means that go above and beyond SOPs to 
help. This included sharing photos of the shipment via WhatsApp with 
drivers/employees of the three previous shifts etc… Despite the volumes of work 
they handle, drivers and other courier employees actually do remember unusually 
looking shipments, such as a shipping-case containing a dry-shipper!

Best of luck and wishes,
Savvas




On 28 Jul 2023, at 08:15, Savvas Savvides <[email protected]> wrote:



Best wishes,
Savvas

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From: "Dr. Kevin M Jude" <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>>
Date: 28 July 2023 at 05:16:39 CEST
To: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>
Subject: [ccp4bb] Dry shipper in limbo
Reply-To: "Dr. Kevin M Jude" <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>>


My first adventure in international crystallography is off to an inauspicious 
start. On Monday, I sent a dry shipper “overnight” from California to 
Saskatchewan, but it has been stuck in the Memphis FedEx facility for a few 
days. I’ve gotten several conflicting explanations of the status from FedEx on 
the phone, but the most likely seems that it has “pre-cleared” customs and yet 
has not yet made it to Calgary. It’s not clear whether anyone actually knows 
where the shipping case is, since I was asked to give a physical description of 
it. Is there anything else I can do from a few thousand miles away, or do I 
just have to wait this out?

--
Kevin Jude, PhD
Structural Biology Research Specialist, Garcia Lab
Howard Hughes Medical Institute
Stanford University School of Medicine
Beckman B177, 279 Campus Drive, Stanford CA 94305
Phone: (650) 723-6431<tel:%28650%29%20723-6431>

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