Lot's of mis-information which I think I correct below

I'm pretty sure the first shipments of the 23FD was in January 1971 the with 
2835 Storage Control Unit for the 2305 Fixed Head DASD and the S/370 M155; it 
might have been simultaneous but the 2835 did attach to existing S/360 M85 2880 
Block Multiplexer channel and the M85 shipped in December 1969. It was followed 
later that year with the shipment in the S/370 M165 and then the rest of the 
S/370.  FWIW, the 2835 SCU was very similar to the 3380 SCU, mainly differing 
due to the parallel data transfer from the drive.  The 23FD was a read only 
device

Dave Noble started on what became the 23FD in February 1968 and it passed IBM's 
A-Test a year later.

Al Shugart moved to Memorex in April 1969.

The first read/write FD's were shipped in 1972 by Memorex and others, it not 
clear who was first; they were incompatible which each other, but the Memorex 
could read and write the 23FD disk.

The IBM Diskette 1 was announced with the 3740 in January 1973 and shipped in 
May 1973 - and the industry began

Tom

-----Original Message-----
From: Fred Cisin <[email protected]> 
Sent: Monday, June 8, 2026 5:18 PM
To: Murray McCullough via cctalk <[email protected]>
Cc: Murray McCullough <[email protected]>
Subject: [cctalk] Re: Floppy disk

On Mon, 8 Jun 2026, Murray McCullough via cctalk wrote:

> 54 years ago the 8 inch floppy came into existence. It can be said it 
> helped to make micr-computing possible.
>
> Happy computing.
>
> Murray ??

I think that Alan Shugart (and staff) started work on it in 1967, and it made 
it to market in 1971.  Then, the patent for the disk was issued on June 6, 
1972.  July 18, 1972 was probably the patent fot the 8" floppy DRIVE.  Both of 
which were already shipping in 1971.

They were originally intended as a read-only device for loading "microcode" 
into the IBM 3330

Shugart moved to Memorex in 1972, but in 1973, founded Shugart Associates.
Xerox bought Shugart Associates in 1977.
Shugart then started a new company in 1978, and tried to name it "Shugart 
Technology".  But, when Xerox had bought the company in 1977, that purchase 
included the name "Shugart Associates".  So, to avoid trademark overlap legal 
issues, in 1979, he renamed it "Seagate"


NEVER name your commpany after yourself!  If you do, then if/when you sell the 
company, you're selling off all the rights to your name also!


OB_irrelevant:  [Unless you are POTUS, in which case, you can go around 
tagging everything in sight, like a teenage spray can gang.  By taking 
immediate action starting after announcement, the opposition, and those 
who wouldst object to doing things that you aren't empowered to do, can't 
get organized to block it until it is too late.]

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Grumpy Ol' Fred                 [email protected]

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