On 6/9/26 16:24, Tom Gardner via cctalk wrote:
Lot's of mis-information which I think I correct below

I'm pretty sure the first shipments of the 23FD was in January 1971 the with 
2835 Storage Control Unit for the 2305 Fixed Head DASD and the S/370 M155; it 
might have been simultaneous but the 2835 did attach to existing S/360 M85 2880 
Block Multiplexer channel and the M85 shipped in December 1969. It was followed 
later that year with the shipment in the S/370 M165 and then the rest of the 
S/370.  FWIW, the 2835 SCU was very similar to the 3380 SCU, mainly differing 
due to the parallel data transfer from the drive.  The 23FD was a read only 
device

The 360/85 was EXTREMELY close to the 370/165, in fact it was the prototype of the 165.  Looking through principles of operation from the two models shows instruction timings are totally identical.  The model 165 had a 23FD to load microcode and diagnostics.  The 360/85 had read-only 360 microcode, but emulators and diagnostics were loadable.  I can only assume that was done via a 23FD.  The major difference between 360/85 and 370/165 hardware was that microcode was partially read-only in the 85, with 500 words or writeable control store, implemented in 16-bit MST4 chips.  The 165 had all microcode in writable ECL static RAM in 64-bit chips.  The /85 cache (storage buffer) was implemented in the same 16-bit chip technology, the 165 was done with the 64-bit chips.  There were some slight differences in the 360 vs. 370 processor status word, also.

Jon


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