Edmond Orignac <edmond.orig...@wanadoo.fr> writes: > xmmixer was designed for use with OSS and is working at least on Linux > with ALSA and OSS emulation.
Since it's a Motif program, it would seem to be the best choice if we're needing a mixer for CDE. I don't think it's absolutely necessary for CDE to have a mixer though. People tend to use whatever sound apps appeal to them and their uses, and not necessarily the one provided by the desktop manager. > However, except for Slackware, Linux > distributions have moved to PulseAudio, and I am unsure OSS > compatibility remains. I'm running Gentoo, which lets you happily compile away all support and requirements for PulseAudio. I also do a lot of recording and Midi work on this machine, so it's a good thing that I can get rid of it, because PulseAudio generally gets in the way of that sort of usage. I use Alsa for regular desktop sound, and Jack for studio/recording apps. Again, I think this whole subject is a black hole you could disappear into. It's probably best if CDE doesn't even attempt to do sound. > On Thu, Apr 28, 2016 at 08:09:27PM +0200, Danilo Schöneberg wrote: >> Don't touch Webkit; it's a security nightmare and a bottomless pit for >> time. Amen! CDE should leave the web to the web browsers. > For network applications, besides FTP, email clients and Web browsers, > on could think of Motif IRC clients (Nebula is one, SmIRC is another one > but apparently cannot be compiled with a recent g++), Motif instant > messaging (https://github.com/gorais/gXipmsg) Motif RSS/Atom readers. IRC clients can also be exploited. CDE shouldn't be trying to provide Internet client software of any kind really. If someone wants to write Motif-based Internet applications, fine. They can even be linked from CDE's web page so users will know about them. But it's a really bad idea for CDE itself to be getting into the network software business. >> Unfortunately, some knuckleheads have decided that a novel's worth of JS >> and CSS is the only way to show webpages...) Oh, that's when they're being kind. Now we have AJAX sites (<cough>, <cough>..."Web 2.0"), which make JavaScript and CSS look minimalistic and spartan in comparison. Anyway, I'm afraid of all this turning into bloat real fast if we're not careful. To me, CDE doesn't need to do much more than what it does now, but in a way that's compliant with modern UNIX systems. It doesn't need Internet clients, video players, sound mixers, or a marching brass band. It should just preserve the look and feel of the old 90's UNIX workstations for people who still want that. One feature that would be very nice though (since it affects the usability of the desktop itself) would be the ability to gracefully handle things like a video player (not provided by CDE itself) going to fullscreen, or a game going fullscreen, or a screen reconfiguration using RandR on a desktop with multiple displays. Back in the days of SparcStations and HPPA machines, it might have seemed reasonable that the X desktop geometry would never change during a login session, or that no application would ever try to take the whole screen, but these days, that's a basic usability issue for even the most minimal usage. -- + Brent A. Busby + "We've all heard that a million monkeys + Sr. UNIX Systems Admin + banging on a million typewriters will + University of Chicago + eventually reproduce the entire works of + James Franck Institute + Shakespeare. Now, thanks to the Internet, + Materials Research Ctr + we know this is not true." -Robert Wilensky ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Find and fix application performance issues faster with Applications Manager Applications Manager provides deep performance insights into multiple tiers of your business applications. It resolves application problems quickly and reduces your MTTR. Get your free trial! https://ad.doubleclick.net/ddm/clk/302982198;130105516;z _______________________________________________ cdesktopenv-devel mailing list cdesktopenv-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/cdesktopenv-devel
