I would say that a mixer is needed only if it can be embedded in the 
main panel.

Otherwise, pavucontrol does the job (at least with pulse).

Antonis.




On 03/05/2016 04:44 μμ, Richard L. Hamilton wrote:
>> On May 3, 2016, at 07:35, Chris Wareham <ch...@chriswareham.net> wrote:
>>
>>> On 01 May 2016 at 11:29 Edmond Orignac <edmond.orig...@wanadoo.fr> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> You are completely right. I was mentioning xmmixer as an example of an
>>> OSS sound mixing Motif application that is usable on Linux Slackware (or
>>> Gentoo) but probably not Linux Ubuntu or Fedora. It is also unclear to
>>> me whether xmmixer would be usable with the BSDs or OpenIndiana.
>>> So xmmixer should not be distributed with CDE. But someone could try
>>> to modify xmmixer to improve CDE integration and make it available
>>> separately via GitHub or Sourceforge, just like dtwinlist or Xarm.
>>> Also, if someone wants to make a Linux Live CD with CDE as the GUI,
>>> xmmixer could be included as a sound mixer if the underlying Linux OS is
>>> using the ALSA sound driver.
>>>
>> Xmmixer works on NetBSD and is include in pkgsrc, the packaging system for 
>> third
>> party applications. The NetBSD kernel audio and MIDI APIs are very similar to
>> OSS, and there is a wrapper that provides an OSS compatible version of the 
>> API.
>> I believe the APIs are similar in OpenBSD and FreeBSD. Xmcd by the same 
>> author
>> as Xmmixer also works on NetBSD, as it uses simple ioctl() calls to interact
>> with a CD-ROM drive.
>>
>>> I was suggesting Motif applications that could be used with CDE, not
>>> applications that should be included in CDE. You are right that since
>>> network applications need to be constantly reviewed and patched for
>>> security, they have no place in the basic CDE distribution. My
>>> proposition of considering CDE/Motif applications has to do with being
>>> able to get rid of network applications that don't just require Qt or
>>> GTK but the full KDE or GNOME infrastructure.
>>>
>> There was also a Motif PostScript (and possibly PDF) viewer called MGv. The
>> original author's web page for it has disappeared, but I think the last 
>> version
>> was 3.1.5 and that source can be found elsewhere on various FTP sites.
>>
>> Chris
> Since I'd like to also see CDE eventually build on a Mac, I favor code 
> cleanup, portability fixes, and maybe build modernization, over new features. 
>  Although IMAP support in vanilla dtmail seems unusable...
>
> BTW, found mgv 3.1.5 source at 
> http://fossies.org/linux/misc/old/mgv-3.1.5.tar.gz; it builds e.g. on Mac El 
> Capitan, although incorrectly enables an alternative version of the putenv() 
> declaration, so I had to change a couple of the Makefiles to HAVE_PUTENV=1 
> instead of HAVE_PUTENV=0.  For some reason, the workaround declaration 
> supplied with mgv declares the parameter as const char *, while the standard 
> does not specify const.  Anyway, it built once that was done, and worked 
> since I had gs via MacPorts.  It also builds and works on Solaris 11, 
> assuming one has gs installed.  Looks like gs is in 
> pkg:/print/filter/ghostscript (@some_version) for Solaris 11.
>
>
>
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