David Nickerson wrote: >>>> I see the project team is being the core management team for the CellML >>>> project - essentially the group that should be making the decisions when >>>> consensus can't be reached and setting the goals for the future of the >>>> CellML project. Although I'm really not too sure who would be included >>>> in such a group. >>>> >>>> >> At present, CellML meetings are open to anyone who wants to attend >> (although obviously the fact that they are held in Auckland limits that >> set from a lot of people who want to attend), and 'final' decisions are >> made at the meetings by whoever turns up. >> > > I would really like to see a move away from this toward an actual > project management team. The current approach seems a bit too arbitrary > to me. > That does then create issues about who to include in this list (and what to do if people are away), which is always contentious ground. The current approach works well, so why change it?
> >> In terms of the policy for allocating addresses, we don't want to become >> a free e-mail redirection host for anyone on the Internet, but I think >> as long as someone at least has some connection with CellML, they should >> be allowed an alias (subject to review of what that alias is to ensure >> it is unlikely to cause confusion or conflict with future lists / >> aliases we might want to assign). >> >> I suggest that we simply give an @cellml.org alias to anyone who asks >> for one and has a demonstrated interest of some kind in the CellML >> project (whether they are a modeller using CellML, a tool developer, or >> interested in some of the theoretical or mathematical aspects of >> CellML). Simply providing a form to fill out providing details to list, >> and having someone briefly review them should be sufficient to keep out >> people who just want the e-mail alias. >> > > While I am unsure how much interest or usefulness there is in providing > such a service, I guess I have no problems with this suggestion. > Although it will require input from the Auckland IT team as to what is > required to implement such a service for a larger group than the core > management team as we were originally discussing. > I don't think we are talking about a very large group of people (there are currently 74 people on the mailing list, and I expect the majority of them wouldn't want to be listed as being contacted). As long as we ask that the alias only be used for CellML-related discussion, I don't see the volume of mail getting out of hand. The first problem with the idea of restricting this to the "core management team" is that there isn't one, and deciding on one is going to be inherently problematic. The second problem is that even if there was a core management team, they would primarily deal with the maintenance of the CellML specification and the cellml.org website, and not necessarily domain specific aspects of creating CellML models. The proposal to provide people a way to contact each other off-list would probably need to include people who actually create models of various types to be useful, and these people wouldn't be on the core management team. > >>>>> P.S. Peter is away from today until the 20th July, getting back to the >>>>> office on the 23rd, if you didn't get the email. >>>>> >>>>> >>>> I would like to see this mailing list used as more of place for decision >>>> making so that things like this shouldn't affect the project. >>>> >>>> >> I think [email protected] is much more appropriate for such >> discussions than the team-cellml list, to which only e-mails which are >> unlikely to be relevant outside of the Auckland group should be sent. >> This has been agreed on at CellML meetings (before you were working on >> the CellML project), and unless that decision is revisited I think we >> should all try to abide by it to ensure that no-one outside of Auckland >> who wants to contribute to CellML is unable to post (the list is >> publicly indexed so others could read it if they wanted to, but if they >> are not on the list they might be unaware that discussions are taking >> place). >> > > Now that you've redirected this thread to the cellml-discussion list I'm > really getting confused which mailing lists you are talking about? Last > time I tried the team-cellml archive was not publicly available outside > the UoA?? (just tried again, and that hasn't changed.) > I was talking about the team-cellml list, but it seems that you are right: the page itself has no access restrictions on it, but the server it is on cannot be directly accessed from outside of the University. I will bring this up at the next meeting to see if we can arrange for the archives to be made public (this has been discussed before, and we decided that it should be publicly accessible, although at that time we thought that it already was accessible). Best regards, Andrew > > > David. > _______________________________________________ > cellml-discussion mailing list > [email protected] > http://www.cellml.org/mailman/listinfo/cellml-discussion > _______________________________________________ cellml-discussion mailing list [email protected] http://www.cellml.org/mailman/listinfo/cellml-discussion
