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Good big government is a contradiction.

David

“There is no difference between communism and socialism, except in the means of achieving the same ultimate end: communism proposes to enslave men by force, socialism - by vote. It is merely the difference between murder and suicide.”--Ayn Rand

 



[email protected] wrote:
Ernie:
You are right, or far more right than wrong. The libertarians have
painted themselves into a corner. The problems caused by Bush II,
even if they are now being dwarfed, can only be solved with
big government reform, that is, a big gvt group who wants to
remove the worst excesses while preserving "good big government/"
 
In other words, the cure for big government is better big government
led by people who are comfortable with large scale gvt institutions.
The libertarians simply don't fit into this picture.  As much as Ron Paul
may have fanatic devotees, even if a lot of them are smart, the fact is that
the mess we are now in, even if part of the situation is for the good, intrinsically
cannot be fixed by a tribal council sitting around a camp fire.  Yet that is what
the libertarians offer, and all large scale solutions, the only ones that have
any chance of working, are rejected on principle.
 
But what else is new ?

Billy
 
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In a message dated 5/11/2009 9:18:10 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, [email protected] writes:
Hi David,

On May 11, 2009, at 8:32 PM, David R. Block wrote:
Aside from being demonized to death by the Democrats and the Media (but I repeat myself), what do you do with the Evangelicals? Let them go third party? Nothing seems to be a real good option here. If the almost 1/2 of the Republican party leaves, we can see Democratic control for years on end. In which case, I think that we can pretty much kiss the country goodbye, if not already. 

The real question is whether Huckabee evangelicals might somehow gain control of the Republican party in a post-Obama world.  That is, the small government/fiscal conservatives may end up isolated, but moderate-government social conservatives might find a way to adapt.

Of course, this means the Libertarians would be left out in the cold, but since they all just want to be left alone that may not be a bad thing. :-P

-- Ernie P.

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