Cool, let me know if you have any questions about my experiences with it.
As a user, I've found it to be very flexible.
-Cameron
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Cameron Childress
ElliptIQ Inc.
p.770.460.7277.232
f.770.460.0963
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Michael Dinowitz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Monday, September 18, 2000 2:06 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: [CF-Community] Re: Spam
>
>
> I'm going to seriously investigate this. I've already printed out
> some docs
> on it and will look it over. The question really is money over everything
> else. I've been trying to hold off from asking the community for support
> till now, but with a few drains on my finances and the total
> collapse of my
> stock portfolio, its going to come to that. Give me a day or so to review
> and talk to the people at Lyris about it. By weeks end, I'll have
> a decision
> and a plan together. Post.Office just doesn't cut it and Lyris may be the
> way to go.
>
>
> > Michael, some list server programs allow you to moderate new subscribers
> for
> > a few posts before they are allowed to post to the list unmoderated. I
> know
> > that this would be a great drain on your time, but probably not greater
> than
> > tracking down spammers. Additionally, you can often configure
> such lists
> > for multiple moderators, which would help you distribute the duties to a
> few
> > volunteers.
> >
> > The one I've used with a great deal of success if Lyris's List Manager
> > (http://www.lyris.com/). I'm sure you are totally sick of people
> suggesting
> > that you switch mailserver platforms for the list, but I have
> used it for
> > quite some time to solve a few of the problems I see you dealing with.
> >
> > 1) Filters for attachments - keeps away virii without converting all
> > messages to plain text.
> > 2) Temporary moderation of new users (elimination of spammers).
> > 3) Multiple moderators.
> > 4) Newserver interface (multiview).
> > 5) ODBC interfaces available.
> > 6) Native archival and search tool.
> >
> > The cost for what HOF would need would probably be about $4,500 with the
> > newsserver interface option, which I know people have
> volunteered to chip
> in
> > for before. Anyways, just wanted to throw that out there....
> >
> > -Cameron
> >
> > --------------------
> > Cameron Childress
> > ElliptIQ Inc.
> > p.770.460.7277.232
> > f.770.460.0963
> >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Michael Dinowitz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > > Sent: Monday, September 18, 2000 11:53 AM
> > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > Subject: Re: Spam
> > >
> > >
> > > On the other hand, complaining to an ISP about it will usually get the
> > > account killed. I know its petty and they'll just get a new
> one, but if
> we
> > > all do it then eventually it'll stop some of the spammers. I
> > > think blocking
> > > dialup port 25 is a last resort, but one to be watched just in case.
> > >
> > >
> > > > The problem is that fully 80% of the spam I get originates from
> dial-up
> > > > accounts acting as their own SMTP. Sorry it sounds harsh, but in my
> > > opinion
> > > > ISPs should block outbound port 25 traffic from their dial-ups. We'd
> > > > eliminate a large part of spam nearly overnight.
> > > >
> > > > Michael J. Sheldon
> > > > http://www.desertraven.com/
> > > > Make a fast friend, adopt a greyhound!
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: Russel Madere [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > > > Sent: Monday, September 18, 2000 06:14
> > > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > > Subject: RE: Spam
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > I have a comment on this. This would block me half of the
> > > time. Since I
> > > > use several different account (home, work, spam killing,
> > > research, etc.) I
> > > > use a mail deamon on my personal box (running Win 2K
> Advanced Server).
> > > When
> > > > I am at work, I can use my workmail server since it is set up
> > > to relay for
> > > > specific IP addresses. However, at home, I must use my own box
> > > to ensure
> > > > that I can send mail on all of my accounts from inside a single mail
> > > client.
> > > >
> > > > Please don't get me wrong, I agree that we need to do
> something about
> > > > spammers, but don't do something that will kill Joe User.
> > > >
> > > > Russel
> > > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: Michael Sheldon [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > > > Sent: Sunday, September 17, 2000 22:34
> > > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > > Subject: RE: Spam
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > First, I'd really go after pacbell on this one. By the reverse
> mapping,
> > > it's
> > > > a DSL account, which I always take great joy in getting
> > > terminated, since
> > > > getting another broadband account is no simple matter.
> > > >
> > > > Next, see if your mail server supports the RBL DUL list. This will
> block
> > > > mail being sent directly from dial-up accounts, instead of
> being sent
> > > > through an ISP's mail servers.
> > > >
> > > > Michael J. Sheldon
> > > > http://www.desertraven.com/
> > > > Make a fast friend, adopt a greyhound!
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: Michael Dinowitz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > > > Sent: Sunday, September 17, 2000 20:22
> > > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > > Subject: Spam
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Not 5 minutes after I put up a new page documenting banned spam
> servers
> > > from
> > > > HoF than I get another piece of spam sent to the list. I'm really
> upset
> > > > about this and would be quite happy to work with anyone out there in
> > > > banning/stopping ALL spam from hitting any CF resource around.
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