Agreed - also if they are "proper" servers, they'll be using server
m/boards, of which there are a limmited number of manufacturers anyway, and
an even smaller no of chipsets, so chances are a lot of the componentary
will be identical or similar...

:> -----Original Message-----
:> From: Philip Arnold - ASP [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
:> Sent: 07 December 2000 12:27
:> To: CF-Community
:> Subject: RE: Server for cf?
:> 
:> 
:> > I think the thing with buying something like the dells as opposed
:> > to no-name
:> > boxes, is that  it is a known quantity - of course you may 
:> happen to get a
:> > cheaper "unbranded" machine that is as good/ better - but this is
:> > a greater risk...
:> 
:> True, all of our newer machines are Compaq with all parts 
:> Compaq branded
:> (NIC, memory, HD etc.) which means we know they're quality 
:> level, but the
:> price is higher (at least the client is paying for it)
:> 
:> But our first 3-4 servers were all non-big names (Fujitsu, 
:> OPUS and a couple
:> of others), and (touch wood) they've been fine
:> One thing I've found though is that some use IBM parts, so 
:> they're pretty
:> good no matter what
:> 
:> Philip Arnold
:> Director
:> Certified ColdFusion Developer
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:> > -----Original Message-----
:> > From: Daniel Lancelot [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
:> > Sent: 07 December 2000 11:55
:> > To: CF-Community
:> > Subject: RE: Server for cf?
:> >
:> >
:> >
:> > :> -----Original Message-----
:> > :> From: Philip Arnold - ASP [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
:> > :> Sent: 07 December 2000 11:53
:> > :> To: CF-Community
:> > :> Subject: RE: Server for cf?
:> > :>
:> > :>
:> > :> > I can highly recomend the dell poweredge servers, extremly
:> > :> stable...
:> > :> > Have had problems running cfserver / IIS on a workstation
:> > :> - our secondary
:> > :> > development box used for CF4.01 was designed as a workstation,
:> > :> > and although
:> > :> > not recieving particularly high loads, needs rebooting
:> > :> frequently...
:> > :>
:> > :> Saying that, we've had several clone servers which are as
:> > :> stable as anything
:> > :> else we've tested (including the new Compaq rack machines)
:> > :>
:> > :> Anyways, on the original questions:
:> > :> Get as much RAM as you can, it's the life saver of a CF
:> > :> Server (256 isn't
:> > :> really enough for a heavily hit server)
:> > :> HDs are good if fast, but (as said before) if you're using
:> > :> Trusted Cache,
:> > :> then it won't be hit (apart from the logs)
:> > :> SCSI HDs are better because the controller (usually) isn't
:> > :> on the mother
:> > :> board, so it's taking the stress rather than the processor
:> > :> Casings (Rack, Desktop or Tower) depends on how your 
:> ISP prefers the
:> > :> hardware
:> > :> You can Mirror any drives you want, but the same spec of
:> > :> drive is preferred
:> > :> Processors, get the Clone with dual 800 rather than dual
:> > :> 1Ghz, it's not
:> > :> worth the money
:> > :>
:> > :> On another point, get 2nd NICs into both the SQL machine and
:> > :> the new machine
:> > :> and run them through their own hub to talk to each other -
:> > :> the traffic
:> > :> difference will improve the data through-put when reading
:> > :> (before cache) and
:> > :> writing
:> > :>
:> > :> HTH
:> > :>
:> > :> Philip Arnold
:> > :> Director
:> > :> Certified ColdFusion Developer
:> > :> ASP Multimedia Limited
:> > :> T: +44 (0)20 8680 1133
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