For what its worth, here is what we use as far as servers and they work
wonderfully, are reliable and manageable from a single workstation.

Servers: Intel ISP 2150 Server with Single or Dual Channel RAID Controller,
RAID 5 with 4 IBM 10 KRPM 9 GB drives, Windows 2000 Server (Blows NT 4.0
away), 256 MB RAM (More for shared hosting servers or as needed - handles up
to 1 GB RAM), Min. single Pentium III 750 MHz Processor (Handles up to
processors), CF4.51 Pro Service Pack 2

Server, hardware and software complete runs about $6500 total or about $235
per month lease.

Co-location services with SQL connection is around $372.50 per month for the
first server (each additional server only pays rack space - bandwidth is
combined and billed only if it exceeds the base 20 Gb for the first server)

All Web sites connect to SQL Server 7 residing on a separate server.

The other often overlooked source of slow performance is bad network
topology. All servers should be connected to an Ethernet Switch (not a Hub)
and NICs configured to run Full Duplex if possible. There are other steps
that can be taken to isolate traffic, etc such as a second NIC to connect to
a separate switch connected to any database servers.

The Intel server platform is very open and can be configured with any
desired OS.

Jim Nitterauer
http://www.creativedata.net

-----Original Message-----
From: Al Musella, DPM [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, December 07, 2000 12:17 PM
To: CF-Community
Subject: RE: Server for cf?



   Thanks for all of the tips.. I think I will go with the Clone...
   I went through 3 Dell poweredge servers so far -  and was never really
happy with the service..   whenever I had problems, they would either blame
Windows NT - telling me to just reformat the drive and reinstall
everything, or to run the diagnostics overnight. Both of which are
impractical on a live server.  Also - the processors  aren't very
upgradeable - the motherboard only supported the speeds that I  originally
ordered. To upgrade to a faster processor requires replacing the
motherboard - which was about as expensive as buying a new server anyway.
They also required Dell versions of the processor, which was much more
expensive than any other source.


    For my own office, I use a few of these desktop clones that a local
computer store makes. Their service was fantastic - parts are available
immediately - and they have been in business longer than Dell:)

  I can specify any motherboard / chip set  - so which should I ask
for??  My last computer came with the Tyan Tiger motherboards.

Thanks
Al


>Agreed - also if they are "proper" servers, they'll be using server
>m/boards, of which there are a limmited number of manufacturers anyway, and
>an even smaller no of chipsets, so chances are a lot of the componentary
>will be identical or similar...
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