well...
Point 1: Hopefully it wont go wrong
Point 2: This whole game is a learning experience - and (supposedly) we
learn most from outr mistakes...

-----Original Message-----
From: Ang�l Stewart [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: 14 March 2001 17:34
To: CF-Community
Subject: RE: Charging for Installation


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I just had the meeting.
I knew that damned woman was smiling too much..
and here I was thinking it was my new spiffy haircut

I..umm..oh geez.

I went with a flat rate of 1000 to cover the entire installation and
bringing the program to the point at which it was functioning on the remote
staging server(some variables in app_global.cfm would need changing etc.),
including setting up CF professional w service packs and this sybase stuff.

Arrrgh! And there are few to no CF Developers in Trinidad..I could have
probably named my own price!
I...didn't consider what would happen in terms of time and cost if it all
went tragicly wrong..

:-\
stupid stupid inexperienced me.
.....
.....
*holds himself*
I feel so...used.
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*shivers*


-Gel







-----Original Message-----
From: Michael Smith [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, 14 March 2001 01:05
To: CF-Community
Subject: Re: Charging for Installation


If you haven't installed SQL-anywhere before are you including installing
that and installing a *working* ODBC
driver for it? This alone could take anywhere from 2 hours to 20 hours if
you have problems!! Plus the default ODBC
driver may be buggy requiring purchasing a 3rd party one... who will pay for
that?

Again you need to confirm that if you get the app to do the same as it does
on the staging server you are done.

Also given the level of service from the other company what if they forget a
file you need - will you be waiting
around weeks to get it and to get paid?

Good luck - if you do this job I am sure you will gain a lot of experience!
:-)

- Michael Smith, TeraTech, Inc http://www.teratech.com/

Angil Stewart wrote:

> Hell no..I've never done anything with Sybase SQL Anywhere. I'm hoping
that
> its a simple task of setting up an ODBC datasource.
>
> The previous developer seems to have produced a decent application from
what
> I can see, but it took them 10 months and 30,000 dollars to do it. BUt it
> uses some very nice layout, for the code..with every query and piece of
> logic in a neat, seperate file so the main file is just a series of
> CFINcludes...nice use of Session variables, it even builds threads and
sets
> up users for a message board system when necessary...really neat.
>
> Buuuut apparently the client was extremely dissatisfied with their level
of
> service.
> They want to pull the application from the former developers servers where
> it was hosted, and do everything themselves...which is where I come in.
>
> I suppose charging for a days work at US100.00 * 8 =US800.00 should cover
it
> all.
> I'll tell them the cost covers set up and getting the program up and
> running, no modifications.
> And when we have it up...work a cost on future modifications etc.
>
> That sounds like the best plan..right? :)
>
> I hate arranging pricing and cost.
> *sigh*
> -Gel
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Michael Smith [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
>
> Have you installed this set up before - especially the database? How long
> did it take?
> Why is the original firm not doing this - did the client and them have a
> disagreement?
> The phase "a little modification" is danagerous - what if the client now
> expects you to fix all bugs until the app
> works!! Can they show you the app working correctly on a staging server
> first? :-)
>
> Bottom line ... You need a clearer scope of work or just bill hourly.
>
> FYI On straightforward installs we usually figure a day to iron out all
> problems. This is where we have written the
> code. On someone else's code who knows what will need "adjusting"?
>
> Good luck
>
> - Michael Smith, TeraTech, Inc http://www.teratech.com/
>
>
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