I agree on the freedom and personal responsibility 100%!! Roll on P2P networking!
I think folks get confused between just asking about/discussing prices and conspiring
to raise prices together.
Unless everybody discussing pricing on CF-community strangely kept their prices in
step, raised them the same
amount at the same times I still fail to see how we could be breaking the Sherman act.
Plus the work has to be interstate for federal anti-trust to even apply - so
discussion in your own state are ok
(unless your particular state has a price fixing law too).
RIAA sux.
- Michael Smith, TeraTech, Inc http://www.teratech.com/
Angel Stewart wrote:
> Actually..I'm not from the United States, and a few guys getting together at
> a pub and asking what the other charges for doing odd jobs, doesn't
> constitute a crime in my country.
> *shrug*
>
> I wasn't aware of the 'rules' for the list with regards to that.
>
> Although I do find them a bit silly in the context of what was being
> discussed...but..
> c'est la vie.
>
> Is it just me..or does everytime a topic that seems interesting, such as
> Javascript integrating with CF code, or someone with a problem with Win2K
> pertaining to developing a CF application..someone pops up and says its off
> topic..or isn't allowed.
> *grumbles*
>
> This 'law' when applied to a mailing list such as this,sounds more like
> something to protect the larger firms and companies than the average guy in
> the street who doesn't want to get taken advantage of.
>
> "Oh..I'm sorry you can't ask anyone what they charge for their freelance
> jobs...thats a felony..but I personally think you should just charge us 100
> bucks.."
>
> "Oh you want to take a survey of salaries and the prices that contractors
> charge? Oh dear me no you can't do that and post it on a website..that
> could contribute to price fixing...not to mention the number of people that
> may realise they are underpaid by their employers..."
>
> And I'm well aware of efforts by law bodies in the US to stifle what is said
> and published on the Internet, by denying the rights of consumers and
> placing the burden on the ISP, rather than attempt to target the individual
> that caused the problem in the first place.
>
> Its the first steps to authoritarian control over the medium of the
> Internet. You obviously don't go after the source of the problem, the
> individual..because that won't acheive the goal..the goal is control over a
> wide range of Users of what is said and not said..so you attack the medium
> which in this case is the ISP.
>
> If the goal were to prosecute the perpetrator of the crime then they would
> take steps to target the person posting the child pornography, not attack
> the ISP. Since that doesn't really solve the problem..as the perpetrator
> will just switch to another ISP.
>
> That's why I think the Internet in its present form is doomed. Governments
> all over the world are frightened of it (FBI anyone?) and want to control
> it. Too much freedom for the population isn't right..so they restrict that
> freedom under the guise of "protecting" the people.
>
> I don't know if you all are aware of efforts by the RIAA to place Encryption
> coding on every hard disk and CD Rom that you purchase, so that in order to
> copy software/files/movies from one drive to another (even your OWN home
> movies) you must contact a central clearing house over the internet to get
> an authorisation code. The RIAA (yes the same RIAA that has seen a constant
> rise in CD sales despite the "terror" of .mp3 file sharing) claims they are
> doing this to protect their copyright material and "The Artists"..who get a
> few pennies out of every CD they sell.
>
> No..most of you probably have never heard about this..because the mainstream
> media (also in the Entertainment business) is keeping veeery veeery quiet
> about it. Policies are being formed amongst manaufacturers and Media Houses
> with no civil party involved....all very quiet and all very hush hush..for
> your own good of course.
>
> The future of the "Internet" is in Peer To Peer file sharing, a 'server'
> less distributed network that no one person 'owns' and where its impossible
> to lay blame on any one company, where it is the individual responsible for
> the content that must be targeted legally instead of just picking the
> biggest target, whether its an ISP..or a mailing list.
>
> Anyways I'm rambling. Thanks for those that responded and tried to help
> out..I'll learn the ropes..in time
> :)
>
> -Gel
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Michael Smith [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
>
>
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