Actually..I'm not from the United States, and a few guys getting together at
a pub and asking what the other charges for doing odd jobs, doesn't
constitute a crime in my country.
*shrug*

I wasn't aware of the 'rules' for the list with regards to that.

Although I do find them a bit silly in the context of what was being
discussed...but..
c'est la vie.

Is it just me..or does everytime a topic that seems interesting, such as
Javascript integrating with CF code, or someone with a problem with Win2K
pertaining to developing a CF application..someone pops up and says its off
topic..or isn't allowed.
*grumbles*

This 'law' when applied to a mailing list such as this,sounds more like
something to protect the larger firms and companies than the average guy in
the street who doesn't want to get taken advantage of.

"Oh..I'm sorry you can't ask anyone what they charge for their freelance
jobs...thats a felony..but I personally think you should just charge us 100
bucks.."

"Oh you want to take a survey of salaries and the prices that contractors
charge? Oh dear me no  you can't do that and post it on a website..that
could contribute to price fixing...not to mention the number of people that
may realise they are underpaid by their employers..."

And I'm well aware of efforts by law bodies in the US to stifle what is said
and published on the Internet, by denying the rights of consumers and
placing the burden on the ISP, rather than attempt to target the individual
that caused the problem in the first place.

Its the first steps to authoritarian control over the medium of the
Internet. You obviously don't go after the source of the problem, the
individual..because that won't acheive the goal..the goal is control over a
wide range of Users of what is said and not said..so you attack the medium
which in this case is the ISP.

If the goal were to prosecute the perpetrator of the crime then they would
take steps to target the person posting the child pornography, not attack
the ISP. Since that doesn't really solve the problem..as the perpetrator
will just switch to another ISP.

That's why I think the Internet in its present form is doomed. Governments
all over the world are frightened of it (FBI anyone?) and want to control
it. Too much freedom for the population isn't right..so they restrict that
freedom under the guise of "protecting" the people.

I don't know if you all are aware of efforts by the RIAA to place Encryption
coding on every hard disk and CD Rom that you purchase, so that in order to
copy software/files/movies from one drive to another (even your OWN home
movies) you must contact a central clearing house over the internet to get
an authorisation code. The RIAA (yes the same RIAA that has seen a constant
rise in CD sales despite the "terror" of .mp3 file sharing) claims they are
doing this to protect their copyright material and "The Artists"..who get a
few pennies out of every CD they sell.

No..most of you probably have never heard about this..because the mainstream
media (also in the Entertainment business) is keeping veeery veeery quiet
about it. Policies are being formed amongst manaufacturers and Media Houses
with no civil party involved....all very quiet and all very hush hush..for
your own good of course.

The future of the "Internet" is in Peer To Peer file sharing, a 'server'
less distributed network that no one person 'owns' and where its impossible
to lay blame on any one company, where it is the individual responsible for
the content that must be targeted legally instead of just picking the
biggest target, whether its an ISP..or a mailing list.

Anyways I'm rambling. Thanks for those that responded and tried to help
out..I'll learn the ropes..in time
:)

-Gel


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