I agree, certifications and such will play a larger role hiring as we move
forward. I saw a posting a while back for a gig and the requirement was to
take and pass the Brainbench CF 4.5 cert exam. I think that type of
requirement makes sense. A ready build easy to quantify pre-employment test.
And if the developer or contractor is really interested, even after the gig
is over or if they don't get it, if they passed the exam, they're now
certified. So it seems like a win/win in that regard.
J.
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-----Original Message-----
From: Carlson, Kevin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, April 12, 2001 1:02 PM
To: CF-Community
Subject: Re: For those of you without a CS Degree
I think a major factor is that whoever hires/approves new developers can
avoid getting blamed if the new person isn't a good fit. "They had a CS
degree, so we all expected them to be good."
On the other hand, it's more difficult to quantify other attributes, or
Monday-quarterback hiring decisions based on "non-traditional" criteria.
I think that certification will play an increasing role in hiring decisions,
considering the shortage of IT professionals and a trend toward increased
specialization. Sites such as www.brainbench.com offer a range of
inexpensive timed cert exams over the web, and will even send you a paper
certificate when you pass.
As for the math question, I think that CS is still showing its roots in
Engineering disciplines.
Taking lots of math certainly demonstrates the ability to think in abstract
terms. On the other hand, creative problem solving is a critical skill that
also requires abstract thinking, but is more difficult to measure or teach.
The down side is that if a programmer or engineer is trained to believe that
there is always only one "right" solution to any problem, then they may stop
at the first or simplest solution they come across. I've seen it happen ...
- Kevin
> Date: Wed, 11 Apr 2001 15:24:30 -0600
> From: "Jay Patton" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: For those of you without a CS Degree
> Message-ID: <021901c0c2cd$cbc47cf0$cb01a8c0@jay>
>
> >in the end, experience tells all.
>
> That is really all i was trying to get at but my question still remains
> why
> do companies ignore those of us that don't have degree's when we can and
> will do a better job than the guy with the degree. When i have 3 yrs
> experience and the guy in front of me has 1 1/2 years and a degree they
> will
> look through me. Just doesn't make sense. especially if experience tells
> it
> all.
>
>
> Jay Patton
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> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Marc Funaro" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "CF-Community" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Wednesday, April 11, 2001 2:31 PM
> Subject: RE: For those of you without a CS Degree
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