Ray good observations, and BTW: my comments are more inciting than per
se the hard reality.. I am hardly as extreme about these things as it
seems... offering a filtered pure view of the inequity.. thats all...
I did attend public schools... which I still insist did squat in
providing education and leadership.. then again...
My point is we create too many legal loopholes and call certain things
alright to be discriminatory about. As I think I said children are
cool... but people need to think with their brains and not their
anatomy.
It is funny how socialist this country keep continuing to become in
selective manners. Seems like everyone wants me the single person to
pay for their life while they suck up the money the government unfairly
takes more of... Believe me, the family of 5 consumes way more than I
do... even though they simply are paying for it proportionally.
-paris
[finding the future in the past, passing the future in the present]
[connecting people, places and things]
-----Original Message-----
From: "Raymond Camden" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Wed, 13 Jun 2001 05:59:11 -0400
Subject: RE: Revenge has it's place
>
> > I grew up poor.. My family never benefited from government welfare
> > directly, only tax bracket wise. I started working when I was
> thirteen
> > and made a go since then.
>
> Did you go to a public school? Yes or no?
>
> > I learned being poor sucked and to overcome such you must work and
> > constantly educate yourself.
>
> I don't disagree with this.
>
> > Government subsidies and public school taxation never provided
> squat
> > for me. I saw the need and the means and sought it. I don't think
> it
> > is some gift or I was lucky. I applied myself. I studied those
> that
> > made it. I absorbed technology like most people sat around
> absorbing
> > TV... while the other folks did drugs, got laid and generally
> jerked
> > off I was working and gaining experiences.
>
> Did you go to public school?
>
> > Education is everywhere. Don't expect us to pay for yours or your
> > childrens... go bus tables, mow lawns, etc. Pay your dues... and if
> > that isn't enough get a second job or third job... sell your
> blood...
> > do whatever it takes. Reminds me of the humor everytime I see
> people
> > starving in African countries... no water.. no sewage... all messed
> > up.. they won't leave and they keep screwing up and reproducing..
>
> Ok, so let's send the kids to work. Is 6 years old enough to work?
>
> > That brings me to another point. All sorts of people want daycare
> > sponsorships and subsidies as well... On my end I would pay 600-900
> a
> > month, but some get big subsidies so they can work they can work
> their
> > 6-10$ an hour job... what gives?
>
> Errr... once again, children keep the human race alive.
>
> > I want a Ferrari real bad, maybe the government will let me deduct
> it
> > as a child, after all it needs to go to the shop all the time, has
> to
> > be stored in special storage and needs new shoes all the time...
> and
> > heck maybe I need 2 or three of them to make up for my own
> inadequacy..
> > Just doesn't sound right does it?
>
> Oh, so people have children to make up for their own inadequacy?
> Jeeze man,
> maybe people have children because they love them. Maybe they have
> children
> because people have been creating families since we crawled out of
> the
> trees.
>
> > Children are hardly our future, for most everyone they are your
> legacy.
> > Your way of trying to live on forever. A support group that can
> chump
> > up some cool things you said or did... Hell everyone wants to be
> > immortal and idolized.
>
> Man, I really feel sorry for you if this is how you feel. I wanted a
> child
> because I wanted a family. I didn't want someone to worship me, I
> didn't
> want a support group, I wanted a family. Is this _really_ how you
> view
> families?
>
> > Face it, we aren't an agricultral based society.. we don't need
> kids to
> > maintain the farm... But from what I hear, it seems like the
> > government does its best to reward people for creating more
> consumers.
>
> Once again though you are mixing apples and oranges. Welfare abuse is
> something different. But, let's face facts. You can't force someone
> to get a
> hysterectamy(sp). You can't force abortions on people. Life is rough.
>
> > You get pregnant and have a kid, both your and your husband can
> take
> > quite a bit of time off work and we subsidize your wage while you
> do
> > such.. up to 6 weeks...
>
> Again - w/o children, the world comes to a halt. When a woman gets
> pregnant
> and has a child, it's not like delivering the mail. It's an extreme
> process
> and you can't expect them to go back to work the day after. Should a
> woman
> get fired for wanting to spend a few weeks w/ her child? My God,
> Paris, I
> can understand your frustration with welfare mothers who pop kids out
> just
> to get money, but it sounds like you are saying there is NO good
> reason for
> anyone to have a child.
>
> Raymond Camden
>
>
>
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