ok, wait! what cf-talk thread about the president?? (just left former
employer and had to resubscribe with new email addy)


~~
Stephenie



----- Original Message -----
From: Cameron Childress <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: CF-Community <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Wednesday, July 18, 2001 2:18 PM
Subject: RE: SS


> > Well, there are US gov employees on the lists and I believe they 
are
> > required to report these things
>
> Even if they didn't report it, I would think it's much more likely
> that once
> mail reaches a .mil or .gov address, it's scanned "Echelon style".
> The rest
> of us might or might not be "watched" by Echelon, but I would hope
> that the
> .mil and .gov networks are VERY watched.
>
> -Cameron
>
> --------------------
> Cameron Childress
> elliptIQ Inc.
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>
>
>
>
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Michael Dinowitz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: Wednesday, July 18, 2001 11:55 AM
> > To: CF-Community
> > Subject: Re: SS
> >
> >
> > Well, there are US gov employees on the lists and I believe they 
are
> > required to report these things. Could have been Echelon but based
> on
> > the
> > speed of the call and some recent articles I've been reading on 
the
> > NSA and
> > data processing, I don't think they would have heard so fast.
> > Remember that
> > the amount of data going around then net is insane and even such a
> > clear cut
> > subject has to be processed.
> >
> >
> > > Makes you wonder whether someone reported the incident or if
> Echelon
> > > picked
> > > it up automatically, some of its key words were certainly in the
> > > message -
> > > http://www.theregister.co.uk/content/archive/19347.html
> > >
> > > If you don't know about Echelon there is some good info at
> > > http://www.aclu.org/echelonwatch/faq.html
> > >
> > > It's a scary big brother world we are living in.
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "Michael Dinowitz" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > To: "CF-Community" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > Sent: Wednesday, July 18, 2001 3:43 PM
> > > Subject: Re: SS
> > >
> > >
> > > > I got into work and had a few phone messages from my wife who
> was
> > > > quite
> > > > concerned. It seems that the secret service called her about 
the
> > > > thread.
> > > > That's all I need. Macromedia AND the US government upset with
> me.
> > > :)
> > > > Actually, they just wanted the headers from the post. I sent
> them
> > > the
> > > > posters apology as well. Hope it's all ok.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > > That president thread in CF-Talk reminded me of something I
> > heard
> > > > > ages ago.
> > > > > A friend of mine, in his freshman Comp Sci year in Dublin
> > Ireland,
> > > > > told me a
> > > > > story of two classmates.  The first was this clueless girl 
who
> > > knew
> > > > > nothing
> > > > > about computers and the other was this guy was helping her 
out
> > > with
> > > > > labs
> > > > > etc.  Anyway he knew all her passwords and thought it would 
be
> > > funny
> > > > > to send
> > > > > an email death threat to Clinton (~1994/5).
> > > > >
> > > > > Of course who arrives the next day but the police aiding two
> FBI
> > > > > agents!
> > > > > So they grill her a while, she maintains she knew nothing
> about
> > > it.
> > > > > The guy
> > > > > eventually fesses up to say it was just a prank.  The net
> result
> > > was
> > > > > both of
> > > > > them were blacklisted !
> > > > >
> > > > > Bearing in mind this was in a foreign country and we're not
> even
> > > > > members of
> > > > > NATO.
> > > > >
> > > > > Kevin Gilchrist
> > > > >
> > > > > Senior Consultant
> > > > > RedSiren Technologies Inc.
> > > > > 412 281 4427
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
>
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