thanks judith. eeek! boy this guy just went off the deep end on that 
one
didn't he?
~~
Stephenie Hamilton
Allaire Certified ColdFusion Professional



----- Original Message -----
From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Judith Dinowitz)>
To: CF-Community <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Wednesday, July 18, 2001 3:49 PM
Subject: Re: SS


> Shasta,
>
> Check out the CF-Talk archives
> (http://www.houseoffusion.com/archive/). It
> ran at 5:43 this morning -- a very provocative message with the 
title
> "Kill
> the President." Suffice it to say that the Secret Service caught on
> and
> became concerned.
>
> I don't want to repeat the message again -- the thread has since 
been
> killed. But you can see it in the archives if you want to know what
> the fuss
> was about.
>
> Judith
> > ok, wait! what cf-talk thread about the president?? (just left
> former
> > employer and had to resubscribe with new email addy)
> >
> >
> > ~~
> > Stephenie
> >
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: Cameron Childress <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: CF-Community <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Sent: Wednesday, July 18, 2001 2:18 PM
> > Subject: RE: SS
> >
> >
> > > > Well, there are US gov employees on the lists and I believe 
they
> > are
> > > > required to report these things
> > >
> > > Even if they didn't report it, I would think it's much more 
likely
> > > that once
> > > mail reaches a .mil or .gov address, it's scanned "Echelon 
style".
> > > The rest
> > > of us might or might not be "watched" by Echelon, but I would 
hope
> > > that the
> > > .mil and .gov networks are VERY watched.
> > >
> > > -Cameron
> > >
> > > --------------------
> > > Cameron Childress
> > > elliptIQ Inc.
> > > p.770.460.1035.232
> > > f.770.460.0963
> > > --
> > > http://www.neighborware.com
> > > America's Leading Community Network Software
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: Michael Dinowitz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > > > Sent: Wednesday, July 18, 2001 11:55 AM
> > > > To: CF-Community
> > > > Subject: Re: SS
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Well, there are US gov employees on the lists and I believe 
they
> > are
> > > > required to report these things. Could have been Echelon but
> based
> > > on
> > > > the
> > > > speed of the call and some recent articles I've been reading 
on
> > the
> > > > NSA and
> > > > data processing, I don't think they would have heard so fast.
> > > > Remember that
> > > > the amount of data going around then net is insane and even
> such a
> > > > clear cut
> > > > subject has to be processed.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > > Makes you wonder whether someone reported the incident or if
> > > Echelon
> > > > > picked
> > > > > it up automatically, some of its key words were certainly in
> the
> > > > > message -
> > > > > http://www.theregister.co.uk/content/archive/19347.html
> > > > >
> > > > > If you don't know about Echelon there is some good info at
> > > > > http://www.aclu.org/echelonwatch/faq.html
> > > > >
> > > > > It's a scary big brother world we are living in.
> > > > >
> > > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > > From: "Michael Dinowitz" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > > > To: "CF-Community" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > > > Sent: Wednesday, July 18, 2001 3:43 PM
> > > > > Subject: Re: SS
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > > I got into work and had a few phone messages from my wife
> who
> > > was
> > > > > > quite
> > > > > > concerned. It seems that the secret service called her 
about
> > the
> > > > > > thread.
> > > > > > That's all I need. Macromedia AND the US government upset
> with
> > > me.
> > > > > :)
> > > > > > Actually, they just wanted the headers from the post. I 
sent
> > > them
> > > > > the
> > > > > > posters apology as well. Hope it's all ok.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > That president thread in CF-Talk reminded me of 
something
> I
> > > > heard
> > > > > > > ages ago.
> > > > > > > A friend of mine, in his freshman Comp Sci year in 
Dublin
> > > > Ireland,
> > > > > > > told me a
> > > > > > > story of two classmates.  The first was this clueless 
girl
> > who
> > > > > knew
> > > > > > > nothing
> > > > > > > about computers and the other was this guy was helping 
her
> > out
> > > > > with
> > > > > > > labs
> > > > > > > etc.  Anyway he knew all her passwords and thought it
> would
> > be
> > > > > funny
> > > > > > > to send
> > > > > > > an email death threat to Clinton (~1994/5).
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Of course who arrives the next day but the police aiding
> two
> > > FBI
> > > > > > > agents!
> > > > > > > So they grill her a while, she maintains she knew 
nothing
> > > about
> > > > > it.
> > > > > > > The guy
> > > > > > > eventually fesses up to say it was just a prank.  The 
net
> > > result
> > > > > was
> > > > > > > both of
> > > > > > > them were blacklisted !
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Bearing in mind this was in a foreign country and we're
> not
> > > even
> > > > > > > members of
> > > > > > > NATO.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Kevin Gilchrist
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Senior Consultant
> > > > > > > RedSiren Technologies Inc.
> > > > > > > 412 281 4427
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
>
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