I am a pretty senior guy in the office of the CTO at the U.S. Department of
State.

I am going to Afghanistan.

My team leader worked for Clarke when he was the CT head at the white house.
He is now a senior federal employee in DOD

He is going to Afghanistan.

My battalion commander is a lobbyist.

He is going to Afghanistan.

I admit that I have some problems with Iraq and how we got there.  I wish it
was ok for us to say that oil is of vital national interest.  I wish that
Bush's dad had done the right thing and gone on to Baghdad back in 91.  I
wish that we had simply said that he is not meeting the requirements of the
cease fire and used that.  However I do feel that we needed to go.

Anyone here that thinks we don't need to be in Afghanistan should read two
books.  The first is called Taliban and was written by a Pakistani
journalist, the second is called Ghost Wars and goes over Americas
activities in the region for the last 50 years or so.  Also we need to
remember that with Afghanistan, they came here.  After Pearl Harbor 18
million Americans enlisted in the military to fight against tyranny.  We
lost more people on 9/11 than we did on 6/7 (if you don't know the date,
look it up).
SPC Timothy Heald
Javelin Gunner
B co 3-116th Infantry(Light)

  -----Original Message-----
  From: Michael Dinowitz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Sent: Tuesday, June 29, 2004 2:44 PM
  To: CF-Community
  Subject: Re: Know Your Enemy

  I've missed this entire thread but I'll put in my 2 cents. Moore's
  'film' is straight up propaganda designed to manipulate the facts to
  where he wants them to be. Doesn't matter that you come away not
  knowing where he wants you to be. Point is, he presents things out of
  context to make them seem what he wants.
  He was interviewing senators and asking them to sign a petition to
  send their kids to Afghanistan. One senator is shown doing a double
  take and it's basically presented as if he didn't want to. Truth is
  (when the full piece is shown, not in the movie) that he agreed and
  said that his son WAS in Afghanistan. This was cut out as it took away
  from Moore's 'point' of the elite (i.e. political people) not putting
  their kids in harms way.
  This is not a movie, not a documentary, it's straight up media
  manipulation. But that's what Moore's been doing for a bit of time
  now.

  Now, if anyone wants to debate me on this, please feel free. If anyone
  wants to call me an idiot, moron, or whatever, then it just proves
  them unable to bring a rational argument. I think that we as a
  community can debate and disagree politely.
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