It seems the world didn't have a problem with us going into
Afganistan. They have had some issues with us going into Iraq though
and that's where my complaints are.
Marlon
On Wed, 30 Jun 2004 11:20:04 -0400, loathe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I am a pretty senior guy in the office of the CTO at the U.S. Department of
> State.
>
> I am going to Afghanistan.
>
> My team leader worked for Clarke when he was the CT head at the white house.
> He is now a senior federal employee in DOD
>
> He is going to Afghanistan.
>
> My battalion commander is a lobbyist.
>
> He is going to Afghanistan.
>
> I admit that I have some problems with Iraq and how we got there. I wish it
> was ok for us to say that oil is of vital national interest. I wish that
> Bush's dad had done the right thing and gone on to Baghdad back in 91. I
> wish that we had simply said that he is not meeting the requirements of the
> cease fire and used that. However I do feel that we needed to go.
>
> Anyone here that thinks we don't need to be in Afghanistan should read two
> books. The first is called Taliban and was written by a Pakistani
> journalist, the second is called Ghost Wars and goes over Americas
> activities in the region for the last 50 years or so. Also we need to
> remember that with Afghanistan, they came here. After Pearl Harbor 18
> million Americans enlisted in the military to fight against tyranny. We
> lost more people on 9/11 than we did on 6/7 (if you don't know the date,
> look it up).
> SPC Timothy Heald
> Javelin Gunner
> B co 3-116th Infantry(Light)
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Michael Dinowitz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Tuesday, June 29, 2004 2:44 PM
> To: CF-Community
> Subject: Re: Know Your Enemy
>
> I've missed this entire thread but I'll put in my 2 cents. Moore's
> 'film' is straight up propaganda designed to manipulate the facts to
> where he wants them to be. Doesn't matter that you come away not
> knowing where he wants you to be. Point is, he presents things out of
> context to make them seem what he wants.
> He was interviewing senators and asking them to sign a petition to
> send their kids to Afghanistan. One senator is shown doing a double
> take and it's basically presented as if he didn't want to. Truth is
> (when the full piece is shown, not in the movie) that he agreed and
> said that his son WAS in Afghanistan. This was cut out as it took away
> from Moore's 'point' of the elite (i.e. political people) not putting
> their kids in harms way.
> This is not a movie, not a documentary, it's straight up media
> manipulation. But that's what Moore's been doing for a bit of time
> now.
>
> Now, if anyone wants to debate me on this, please feel free. If anyone
> wants to call me an idiot, moron, or whatever, then it just proves
> them unable to bring a rational argument. I think that we as a
> community can debate and disagree politely.
>
>
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