> Maureen,
>
> Thank you, you have voiced what I feel very
> eloquently and I thank you
>
> What she said!!
>
> _____
>
> From: Maureen
>
>
> At 04:22 PM 6/30/04, Sam wrote:
> >To all the liberals in this list,
>
> First of all, you assume that everyone who disagrees
> with Bush is a
> liberal. That would be wrong.
> Then you assume that everyone who disagrees with
> Bush hates him. That
> would also be wrong. Most of us are more than
> capable of hating the
> actions without hating the person.
No, I'm just refering to people who dislike him
because of these points. Fair play to you if you
dislike him for other reasons.
> >What if we found the WMD's?
> >Would you still hate Bush for something else?
>
> If they found WMDs in Iraq, I would be glad those
> weapons could no longer
> be used on innocents, but it would not change the
> fact that I am furious at
> how sloppily the government handled the intelligence
> gathering, or the fact
> that companies with close ties to members of the
> administration are being
> paid millions over the last 19 months to destroy the
> weapons that have not
> been found.
??? Your upset that companies are paid to destroy the
weapons that they can't find? Is that fair?
It seems they're in Syria. They trucked them over days
before the war. We'll get them eventually. Be patient.
> >What if we proved Iraq was trying to by uranium
> from Nigeria?
> >Would you still hate Bush for something else?
>
> Niger, not Nigeria. Debates are much more
> productive when you have your
> facts straight.
Hah, ya got me.
> Bush, or whoever wrote the speech for him, stood in
> front of the American
> people and distorted the facts to justify going to
> war. If the uranium had
> existed, and the transaction had happened, there
> would be no need to be
> angry about it. There would also have been no need
> for the administration
> to put Valerie Plame in harm's way by outing her as
> a CIA agent.
http://fairuse.1accesshost.com/news2/ft1.htm
"The FT has now learnt that three European
intelligence services were aware of possible illicit
trade in uranium from Niger between 1999 and 2001.
Human intelligence gathered in Italy and Africa more
than three years before the Iraq war had shown Niger
officials referring to possible illicit uranium deals
with at least five countries, including Iraq."
Could be they were right! Can't be positive yet but I
think we should stay open minded.
>
> >What if we proved the connection between Saddam and
> Osama Bin Laden?
> >Would you still hate Bush for something else?
>
> What if we proved the connections between Bush and
> Osama Bin Laden? It's
> actually much easier to do than connecting Saddam
> and OBL.
There's a lot of proof that the main stream media is
ignoring. Could possibly be proved without a dobut
very soon.
>
> >- starting to sound like 50 :)
> >
> >What would it take for you to not hate the
> President?
>
> For a village in Texas to get its idiot back?
Sounds like you're spewing hate.
> For John Ashcroft, Dick
> Cheney, Karl Rove, Donald Rumsfeld and Conti Rice to
> be unemployed next
> January.
Wow, you dislike the whole team. It's going to take a
lot more work than I thought.
> For all the troops that are dead or in
> danger because this
> warmonger used his power to enrich himself and his
> cronies to be home and
> safe.
The World is a safer place now. Al-Quada is so week
according to the 9/11 panel that they can no longer
plan a major strike against America. Osama is hiding
in a cave someplace with no influence over Al-Quada.
Cells are working on there own. They're on the run.
Israel has not been attacked in quit a while and they
thank the fact that Sadam is no longer paying 25k to
suicide murderers. Peace in the Middle East is not
cheap. It coast many lives and lots of money. But if
the terror has no place to support it, no nation to
hide in then we are all safer.
> For all the innocents destroyed in his march
> to war to be alive and
> well. For the United States of America to be seen
> as a shining beacon of
> hope and freedom, instead of as imperialist
> monsters.
We are. And the good see that.
>
> >Give Al Gore the Presidency?
>
> By all that is right and fair in this country, Al
> Gore should be
> president. The fact that he is not has shaken my
> faith in our system of
> government like nothing ever has.
>
> >Everyone seems glad he's not in office.
>
> Assumes evidence not in fact. Millions of people
> are distraught over Gore
> being stripped of the election. Only in Dittoland
> is "everyone" glad.
Then how do he loose out to someone like Kerry AKA -
the candidate that's not Bush?
>
> >Is there anything that can happen in the world that
> would change your mind
> >on Bush?
> >
> >I doubt it.
>
> I doubt it too, but because my opinion of Bush is
> based on his actions, or
> lack of action, about issues that are very important
> to me, and nothing can
> change what has already happened. And as for the
> future, even if he
> supposedly changed, I wouldn't believe him if he
> told me grass was green
> and water was wet.
OK, that's fair.
>
> >It's kind of pointless to discuss anything when you
> have such a blinding
> >hatred for the man.
>
> And it is pointless to discuss anything with you
> when you refuse to accept
> that we have valid reasons for feeling the way we
> do. Bush is the 11th
> person to serve as President in my lifetime, and
> while I have been angry at
> others over the years - Johnson for Vietnam, Nixon
> for Watergate, Reagan
> for Iran Contra, Clinton for Lewinsky - never have
> I felt that the
> behavior of the President threatened the continued
> existence of the United
> States. With Bush, that is my greatest fear.
I feel the US just saved the world, see how we look at
things differently.
-sm
>
> Maureen
> _____
>
>
>
>
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