4th Geneva Convention http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fourth_Geneva_Convention
larry On Fri, 22 Oct 2004 09:25:05 -0500, G <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Which convention specifically outlawed the targetting of civilians? > > I thought that wasn't indoctrinated until 1949? > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Larry C. Lyons" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "CF-Community" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Friday, October 22, 2004 9:19 AM > Subject: Re: Dying for the United Nations > > > The Geneva Conventions have been in force since 1864. > > http://www.globalissuesgroup.com/geneva/history.html > > > > To quote from the site: > > -- > > The first Geneva Convention was signed in 1864 to protect the sick and > > wounded in war time. This first Geneva Convention was inspired by > > Henri Dunant, founder of the Red Cross. Ever since then, the Red Cross > > has played an integral part in the drafting and enforcement of the > > Geneva Conventions. > > > > These included the 1899 treaties, concerning asphyxiating gases and > > expanding bullets. In 1907, 13 separate treaties were signed, followed > > in 1925 by the Geneva Gas Protocol, which prohibited the use of poison > > gas and the practice of bacteriological warfare. > > > > In 1929, two more Geneva Conventions dealt with the treatment of the > > wounded and prisoners of war. In 1949, four Geneva Conventions > > extended protections to those shipwrecked at sea and to civilians. > > > > The Hague Convention on the Protection of Cultural Property was signed > > in 1954, the United Nations Convention on Military or Any Other > > Hostile Use of Environmental Techniques followed in 1977, together > > with two Additional Protocols to the Geneva Conventions of 1949, > > extending their protections to civil wars. > > -- > > > > larry > > > > > > > > On Fri, 22 Oct 2004 09:12:28 -0500, G <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > These are all valid examples of past actions that today, would be > considered > > > war crimes. But in the day, before the Geneva Conventions, this was how > wars > > > were executed. > > > > > > Since the conventions, the purposeful targeting of civilians during a > state > > > of war is a war crime. > > > The systematic targeting of civilians when a state of war does NOT > exist, > > > would have to be considere terrorism. > > > > > > And that is what these palestinians are engaging in. > > > > > > > > > > Not to mention the 117 cities the US firebombed in Japan prior to the > use > > > of Nukes > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > From: Larry C. Lyons [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > Sent: Thursday, October 21, 2004 8:03 PM > > > > To: CF-Community > > > > Subject: Re: Dying for the United Nations > > > > > > > > > > > > Look up the Dresden and Hamburg Firestorms. Those were deliberate > > > > attacks on civilian targets by allied forces, especially the Dresden > > > > bombing. > > > > > > > > larry > > > > > > > > > > > > On Thu, 21 Oct 2004 19:28:25 -0400, Michael Dinowitz > > > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > German positions means military positions. Tell me what German > > > elementary > > > > > schools were bombed on purpose in WW2. > > > > > But that brings up an interesting issue. Are you equating the > > > Palestinians > > > > > attacks against Israel with a war? If so, then Israel should have > every > > > > > right to treat them as an invading army and not hold back. 30 > civilians > > > > > accidentally killed during the last Gaza incursion would multiply to > > > tens of > > > > > thousands if Israel meant to kill civilians. Should Israel treat > this as > > > a > > > > > war? Should they go all the way? Your implying that it is a war. > > > > > > > > > > > > Michael Dinowitz wrote: > > > > > > > Not 100% true. Children are not in the military. When > > > > > > Palestinian terrorists > > > > > > > go out of their way to attack school buses and blow up > > > > > > pizza stores loaded > > > > > > > with mothers and children, they can not use the 'everyone > > > > > > is a soldier' > > > > > > > excuse. > > > > > > > > > > > > If they believe that all Israelis are an invasion force that is > > > > > > occupying their land then they can use that argument. For > example, > > > > > > the allies had no problem carpet bombing Germans cities in WWII. > In > > > > > > addition the allied forces bombed German positions in France, > killing > > > > > > French and German women and children. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~| Sams Teach Yourself Regular Expressions in 10 Minutes by Ben Forta http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=40 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:5:132293 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/5 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:5 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.5 Donations & Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
