The casualty figures were taken from a recent report in The Lancet (the top
medical journal in the UK, very prestigious and well regarded)
http://image.thelancet.com/extras/04art10342web.pdf (warning - this is a
scientific peer reviewed paper and can be a bit dense at times)

The sources on Falluja were:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/middle_east/4003877.stm and
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/middle_east/4004873.stm

Some quotes:
"They hit a second hospital [on Tuesday], killing everyone. There are dead
bodies in the streets. People have been burying their dead in the gardens of
their homes"

"There are more dead bodies on the streets and the stench is getting
stronger"

"There are bodies strewn in the streets and most families were forced to
bury the dead in their gardens. I can see lines of bodies alongside the
pavement"

"A house some doors from mine was hit during the bombardment on Wednesday
night. A 13-year-old boy was killed. His name was Ghazi"

For some people, War isn't just something that happens on TV.


-----Original Message-----
From: G [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: 12 November 2004 19:09
To: CF-Community
Subject: Re: Let the white wash begin

DELIBERATE....targetting of civilians. Are you implying US soldiers are
purposefully shooting women and children?

What are your sources on this? I've seen nothing describing the kinds of
scenes you are painting.


> A bit of a diversion, but how does that square up in Iraq where over
100,000
> civilians have died since the beginning of the war and the chance of
having
> a violent death is 58 times higher?
>
> Some of the stories coming out of Falluja at the moment are really
> distressing, the bodies of women and children just lie in the streets and
> the smell is unbearable.
>
> Whether its war or terrorism, killing is just wrong.
>
> Arafat, Blair, Bush - they all have blood on their hands.
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: G [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: 12 November 2004 17:25
> To: CF-Community
> Subject: Re: Let the white wash begin
>
> Yes. The rules of war that have been set down and agreed upon SINCE world
> war 2 expressly forbid the intentional targeting of civilians in any war
> action.
>
> Supporting the intentional killing of civilians to get what you want, even
> if you believe that what you want rightfully belongs to you, is
> terrorism...not "freedom fighting".
>
> >
> > For example, in WWII the US felt that Germany occupied land rightly
> > owned by the allies.  To get this land back we bombed German civilians
> > is an effort to sap he will of the Germans to fight.  Is that
> > different than the Palestinian terrorists bombing the Israelis?
> > (that's not rhetorical)
> >
>
>
>
>
>
>
> 



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