> interesting question. Judging from discussion here it seems to be the > Libertarians who are in favor. Brings us back to what is conservative, > doesn't it. Yep. I want to be a libertarian. There are things in their philosophy that I like. Legalizing drugs and nader are not things I like. (nader is an ass in many ways, especially in alienating others) > As for your son. Maybe he just likes grandma? If you are really > worried, perhaps there is a relative who has emphesyma or lung cancer > who will explain things to him? I personally favor the approach of > trusting kids to have enough sense, but I realize our parenting style > probably differ; I am pretty laissez-faire. Yep, we're really worried. My grandmother died of lung cancer but that was way before I was married. I would trust the kids to have sense after a certain age. 3 is not the age where I trust them on this. My daughter is 8 and she's adamant against smoking. She knows the issues and can speak on them. A 3 year old can't.
> > Dana > > > On Tue, 16 Nov 2004 13:58:22 -0500, Michael Dinowitz > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > He doesn't yet. The older 2 are against smoking but the youngest hasn't > seen > > the results. The issue is that he is too young and he's already on a > > dangerous path just with cigarettes. What if he passes by someone on the > > street smoking a joint? > > It's fine and good to just say legalize drugs but have those yelling for > > legalization thought the whole thing through? Probably not. Will > > conservative Americans, religious or not accept such a change? Probably > not. > > Will it be seen as another division between democrats (who probably are > more > > for legalization) and republicans (who are probably more against)? Yes. > > > > > > > > > But if your son realized what smoking does to people? My kids are very > > > adamantly anti-smoking. Maybe it's just a matter that yours is too > > > young to realize yet. > > > > > > Dana > > > > > > > > > On Tue, 16 Nov 2004 13:04:38 -0500, Michael Dinowitz > > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > My youngest son (almost 4) has said of my mother smoking; I love > that > > > smell. > > > > He also once asked for her to come over with a cigarette. If Drugs > were > > > > legal then this child with little self control or idea of choice > would > > > be > > > > exposed to it at some point and be not only temped but forced into > it > > > due to > > > > the addictive nature. Should drugs be illegal? Yes. Should > cigarettes be > > > > illegal? Yes. > > > > That is what just about any parent will say and I agree. > > > > > > > > On the other hand, read a comic called Judge Dredd. In it, they have > > > smoking > > > > emporiums where people go to smoke. It's a sealed environment with > no > > > > environmental impact and no chance of a passerby to be exposed. > > > > > > > > Go ahead and legalize drugs, just keep them away from me and mine. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > > From: Gruss Gott [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > Sent: Tuesday, November 16, 2004 12:27 PM > > > > > To: CF-Community > > > > > Subject: Legalize Drugs (was: nws - now *this* guy is upset.) > > > > > > > > > > > Howie Hamlin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > I see that they want to legalize all drugs. I can't see how > that's > > > a > > > > > good idea. > > > > > > Marijuana, maybe, but legalizing cocaine? > > > > > > > > > > That's what I like about libertarians, they believe in liberty! > The > > > > > problem with drugs is that the current theory is 2 fold: > > > > > > > > > > 1.) It's immoral and the federal governement should legislate > > > morality. > > > > > > > > > > 2.) Drugs are so awesome, and people are so weak, that if drugs > were > > > > > legal everyone would use them and then there'd be anarchy; or at > least > > > > > wrongful injury and death would rise. > > > > > > > > > > Here's my view: > > > > > > > > > > 1.) No non-drug users that I know were disuaded because drugs are > > > > > illegal; I've never heard "well I would, but it's illegal." > Nobody I > > > > > know that uses drugs cares if they're illegal; they just factor it > in > > > > > as a risk of life. Look at drunk drivers. > > > > > > > > > > 2.) Drug use is a medical problem, not a criminal one. So while > we > > > > > probably don't want heroin available at the local 7-11, if > somebody is > > > > > caught with it or using it they should be treated medically. > > > > > (Hazelden, Betty Ford, etc.) > > > > > > > > > > 3.) There should be safe ways to get and use drugs should someone > > > > > choose too, i.e., needle parks. By providing drugs for free, we'd > > > > > take the profit incentive out of drug dealing and crime rates > would > > > > > fall: theft, armed robbery, prostitution, buglury, et al. > > > > > > > > > > The libertarians are on to something! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~| Special thanks to the CF Community Suite Gold Sponsor - CFHosting.net http://www.cfhosting.net Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:5:136301 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/5 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:5 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.5 Donations & Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
