Interesting. You can get into deep water with this rather quickly. I
have not seen Gone with the Wind, but I gather that the portrayal of
the slave woman was stereotypical if not racist, hmm? So the actress
that played the role participated in this, making her a kind of
traitor I guess? Perhaps the intent here is to call Condi an Uncle
Tom, more or less. This would fit with my perception of her at the
female level. What do people think?

I am not sure that the fact that this had to explained to me proves
anything.  I think Gone with the Wind is well-known enough that most
people would get it.

I haven't seen The Color Purple either but... I think that when a
black author writes a story that is set among blacks then hey, some of
those blacks are not nice people, and it would in fact be worse for
him/her to say "I have not going to have any unpleasant black people
in here because this work might be seen by whites..." Yanno? If a
white author, let's say Elmore Leonard, write stories about white
people who are criminals then nobody says hey this is derogatory to
whites, and perhaps that is the real racism, thinking that a group to
which one does not belong wants or needs one's protection.

Or maybe I am all wrong with this :) But that is the way it looks to me.

Dana 


On Thu, 18 Nov 2004 08:15:29 -0500, Chris Stoner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Gruss Gott wrote:
> 
> >Why is it racist to suggest the Ms. Rice is a southern black women playing 
> >dumb?
> >
> Are you really serious or are you just trying to prove your intelligence
> by debating an indefensible situation?  In both movies the "southern
> black woman" was an uneducated slave woman who at the time was
> considered nothing more then a piece of property.  One (movie character)
> was a slave in the truest sense of the word and the other a slave to a
> husband who purchased her at a very young age from her father (and
> physically abused her on a daily basis).  This is not a portrayal of a
> "black southern woman" in any sense of the word, this is a portrayal of
> an ignorant slave woman.
> 
> Now, I understand that your case can be made.  It (your perspective),
> however, sure as hell isn't the first impression of most people viewing
> it (as judged by the inflammatory reaction) and that is why this is
> offensive.  If you have to explain to people why their interpretation is
> wrong, convince them that they are not offended, then the content is
> indeed offensive.  It may not be offensive to you but that doesn't
> matter one bit (except on an intellectual level) -- people ARE offended.
> 
> Southern and Northern and Eastern and Western black people are funny
> that way, they have some irrational dislike of being called (even
> implied) slaves.
> 
> Now the pirate character doesn't bother me at all for the reasons
> already discussed.
> 
> 

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