yes, there seems to be a sort of myopia in corporate American that
outsourcing is both cheaper and better. I keep seeing articles in the
IT magazines questioning whether this trend is rational or even
prudent. Apparently the corporate types aren't reading them, because I
also keep reading about new outsourcing contracts.

Kind of ironic when you consider the H1B visa cutbacks. Those people
would be spending their money in the US; work sent overseas is money
spent overseas and it's also frequently a loss of control and critical
expertise. But that is a whole other rant :)

Dana 


On Mon, 13 Dec 2004 01:15:50 -0500, Jim Davis
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> This happens, for what it's worth, at the corporate level as well, but it
> reverse (at least sometimes).  My company, for example, has a far reaching
> contract with an Indian consulting firm.  The numbers have been slowly but
> steadily growing, but right now at least a third of our on-site staff aren't
> US Citizens (and we have many, many offsite staff in India).
> 
> Since that firm is handling all of the visa work and such it's now become
> simpler (business wise) to hire through them so we're forced to interview
> ONLY their candidates - only after we've exhausted all possible avenues
> through them are we allowed to consider other candidates (and even then only
> from a select list of "approved consultant placement agencies").
> 
> They pride themselves on saying "we won't fire anybody to replace them with
> outsourced jobs" but in practice they simply won't hire anybody else to
> replace them.  In the past two years my area has lost in the range of 20
> people to frustration, retirement, sickness or (rarely) promotion and all of
> them were replaced with outsourced personal from this one firm.
> 
> As you might imagine this has become more than a little annoying (for one
> thing the placement firm quite simply lie on the resumes they send us, for
> another we've no possible way to place suitable candidates that we already
> know).  In general it's also slowly killing us because these contracts never
> last for more than six months - we spend more time training than working it
> seems.
> 
> From what I've seen this isn't at all unusual in fortune 100's.
> 
> Jim Davis
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Dana [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Sent: Monday, December 13, 2004 12:42 AM
> > To: CF-Community
> > Subject: Re: _Isn't_it_Discrimination?
> >
> > Most likely. I am just making the point that being lazy or ignorant
> > aren't usually good excuses for breaking the law. But yeah, I doubt
> > there is (usually) actual prejudice there. I remember the case I
> > mentioned because I answered him when he asked the same thing -- isn't
> > this discrimination.
> >
> > Dana
> 
> 

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