This is sounding more and more like Germany about 1929. Seig Heil! George
Bush needs to grow a little mustache.

Time to move to Australia. ;) You were right Beth, I guess I am an
anti-American if this is what being an American means.

-Gary

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Todd [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Saturday, November 10, 2001 1:04 AM
> To: CF-Community
> Subject: Re: U.S. Will Monitor Calls to Lawyers
>
>
> Pardon my language, but fuck the US Department of Justice.
>
> "Attorney General John D. Ashcroft approved the eavesdropping rule on an
> emergency basis last week, without the usual waiting period for public
> comment. It went into effect immediately, permitting the government to
> monitor conversations and intercept mail between people in
> custody and their
> attorneys for up to a year at a time."
>
> Nice due-process assholes.  Screw the lawyers and screw the American
> peoples' right to decide.  Boy, the government is 3 for 3 on major rights
> issues vs the American people so far this year. 10 points for the
> terrorists.
>
> "According to a summary published in the Federal Register Oct. 31, the
> monitoring will be conducted without a court order whenever the attorney
> general certifies 'that reasonable suspicion exists to believe that an
> inmate may use communications with attorneys or their agents to facilitate
> acts of terrorism.'"
>
> ooooooh .. no court order.  Certifies to who?  Nice power play
> As(shole)hcroft.  I see .. so now we are saying screw the
> *entire* judicial
> system.  America isn't even in the hands of the lawyers anymore .. my
> goodness .. never thought I would see that happen.  30 points to the
> terrorists.
>
> "Records of clearly privileged information, such as a discussion about a
> client's defense, will not be retained by the monitors, the
> department said.
> 'Apart from disclosures necessary to thwart an imminent act of violence or
> terrorism, any disclosures to investigators or prosecutors must
> be approved
> by a federal judge,' it added."
>
> We all know this is a lie.  They are going to track and record
> every little
> thing they can.  It's too big of a temptation not to do so.  20 points to
> the terrorists.
>
> "Murphy, who is director of the ACLU's Washington national office, agreed,
> saying, 'the idea that this could be happening to innocent people
> is really
> disturbing.' A lawyer's effectiveness, she added, can be dramatically
> diminished if the government is listening in, making a client fearful of
> disclosing all that the attorney needs to know to mount a
> forceful defense."
>
> So, now it's even easier to potentialy screw over our own
> citizens.  10 more
> points for thr terrorists.  That's 70 so far .. a passing score.
>
> Hmm .. in addition to wiretapping, they should shove a camera up
> everyone's
> ass too.  Sound *and* video .. gotta cover all the bases, you
> know (besides,
> I bet Ashcroft likes that ass-vision, since he seems to enjoy screwing
> people so much.).
>
> Fuck the whole US government for allowing this stuff to go on.  I'll be
> writing my government officials in the morning .. not that it
> will do a damn
> bit of good ... I'm afraid I don't have as much money as the RIAA, or
> Microsoft, or AOL, or whatever.
>
> Todd
> -----
> Todd for President
> Nuking the whole G**damned US government, even if it means he can't be
> president, for a better tomorrow.
>
> P.S. DOJ, investigate this:
>
> Blow up a whole bunch of stuff.  Soon.  Kill.  Secret code.  Plane.  Bomb.
> Building.  American capalist pig-dogs.  Osama bin Laden.  Afghanistan.
> Nukes.  Anthrax.  Terrorists.  Saddam.  Iraq.  Kiss my ass!  Ashcroft is a
> war-mongering, anti-privacy, anti-american, anti-freedom, control-freak,
> tool!  I'm even embarassed that he and I share the same first 3 letters of
> our last name.  A dick in the intern's mouth is worth 2 Bush's.
> Apparently
> the constitution is toilet paper.  Fuck you all!!!  Go to hell.  The only
> good politican is a dead one.  It's really sad when the most non-american
> people in the US are it's own government officials.  Unwad your panties ..
> this is freedom of speech, or has that been taken away too?  Fuck
> off either
> way, I'm still speaking my mind.  Praise Allah.
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Jon Hall" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "CF-Community" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Friday, November 09, 2001 6:17 PM
> Subject: U.S. Will Monitor Calls to Lawyers
>
>
> > Wow. Talk about violation of privacy. I'm angry because any conviction
> that
> > the govy gets will be thrown out as soon as the Supreme Court throws the
> > ruling out as unconstitutional.
> >
> > http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A64663-2001Nov8.html
> 
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