> From: Tony Weeg [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> 1. it created more alienation and DIFFERENCES between people 
> where there shouldnt have been, yeah we can thank our 
> forefathers for the abuses that were bestowed upon african 
> peoples who were taken from their lands, BY THEIR OWN PEOPLE 
> a lot of times, and sold into slavery.

No, we can thank years upon years of discrimination, segregation, and
ignorance.
 
> 2. it makes ME, and the other mid 20 to mid 40 demographic 
> white males, the most hindered group.  as we now are lost in 
> the shuffle when we are COMPLETELY AND UTTERLY QUALIFIED for 
> positions, because we will not fill their AA quotas.

I have never not found a job because of AA. It has made it a little more
difficult but that is just the way it goes.

> 3. it furthers the handicapping for people that its supposed to help.

How?

> 4. it prevented my father from a job in our hometown, and now 
> he has to work out of town, not home for fucking christmas, 
> not home for his first granddaughter's first five years of 
> life, and numerous other things that my father cannot enjoy, 
> because he wasnt a minority.

That is unfortunate but that happens. Your father might be inconvenienced
but the family of the man that got the job can now start building a life
that you and your family have been so used to living.

> im not against helping others, trust me, im one of the most 
> giving motherfuckers you will ever meet.  but i am against 
> ANY, and i mean ANY special anythings for anyone based on any 
> thing other than physical and mental handicaps. 

Even years and years of discrimination? You just can't qipe the slate dude.
It's not a playground fight where you are all friends the next day.

> a brain, two eyes, ten fingers and toes, and the wherewithall 
> to end up here on the shores of the grand ole usa, get in the 
> mix brother, the playing field is not easy, life is rough, 

Even more rough when you haven't had the same opportunities as others!

> but when you apply yourself, and do your thing the best it 
> can be... you will succeed.  other than that, GO THE FUCK 
> BACK TO YOUR HOME COUNTRY, we dont want weak people here.  my 
> great-grandparents came here from norway and italy, and guess 
> what, they figured it out, and made it.  JUST FINE! with no 
> AA, NONE whatsoever.

Our great grandparents (mine are right from italy/sicily benefited from
slavery and the culture of the time. Those are the people like Ray
mentioned... Have these stigmas when it comes to minorities... Black =
thief, Mexican = illegal, etc...





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