Maybe then, we should find out, who defined marriage first before
jumping on one group.

And, I completely agree with you:
"Churches should not be agents of the government"

Yves


On Thu, 24 Feb 2005 15:38:25 -0500, Larry C. Lyons
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I think it should be the other way around. Religions should get out of
> marriage. If people want some sort of civil commitment that would give
> the legal benefits of what we now consider marriage fine. If they want
> the religious ceremony with it, then they can schedule a separate
> ceremony. Churches should not be agents of the government.
> 
> larry
> 
> 
> On Thu, 24 Feb 2005 14:22:22 -0500, Nick McClure
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Hey, I think the government should get out of marriage all together.
> >
> > Marriage is a religious thing. Government has turned that into something
> > beyond religion.
> >
> > If people want to sign civil contracts they can go right ahead and do that.
> >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Yves Arsenault [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > Sent: Thursday, February 24, 2005 11:40 AM
> > > To: CF-Community
> > > Subject: Re: Gay Marriage( Was: Re: Activist Judges)
> > >
> > > One thing about gay marriage.....
> > >
> > > This is just my 2 cents...
> > >
> > > In my opinion it should be "classified" differently than traditional.
> > >
> > > The human rights issue is only speaking about one's right to choose.
> > > Yes, everyone has the right to make their own choices whatever they
> > > might be.
> > >
> > > But, one relationship is pro-creative and supports the continued human
> > > existence, while the other cannot. They must be distinguished. All
> > > emotionalism aside, that is reality. Anyone who voices a disagreement
> > > with the whole gay marriage thing are almost immediatly branded as
> > > "intolerant", while it is factual that there are both "good" people
> > > and "intolerant" people on both sides of the debate.
> > >
> > > Emotionalism is killing our right to disagree on sensitive issues. And
> > > people have the right to disagree, it's ok you know. And it doesn't
> > > warrant being called "intolerant" etc.... I'm not speaking about
> > > people (on both sides of the discussion) that suffer from "verbal
> > > diahrea". Of course there are some comments that are plainly based on
> > > intolerance, or emotionalism. Not on facts.
> > >
> > > I'm not in the business of telling people what they can or cannot do,
> > > but I should be able to be honest about the reality of the relations
> > > in mind as I see it. Pro or against, we all have that right.
> > >
> > > I would also, push the envelop one step further in issues regarding
> > > possible financial (or legal) advantages to being married... I knew 2
> > > sisters, who for many years were living together and un-married. I
> > > believe people who have a committed relationship together financially
> > > should have financial benefits. Those sisters had many investments
> > > together, like a home, car...etc. That should apply to heterosexual
> > > couples, gay couples brothers, sisters....etc.
> > >
> > > Basically, strong committed relationships should be acknowledged.
> > >
> > > Yves
> >
> >
> 
> 

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