I don't feel Christians in America are oppressors.
I do agree there are religious nuts out there but I don't see oppression.

Religious charities have been helping the needy for close to 2k years.
President Bush's plan is to help them do what they have a good track
record of doing and the job will get done for the least amount of
money.
Otherwise you need to spend a fortune with buildings, people,
training, trucks, oversight groups and who knows what other layers of
bureaucracy just to help the needy.
Why not give the money to originations that do that the best? I'm sure
if the Wiccans have a legitimate charity they'd be eligible for funds.


Where on earth did you here that Bush wants to eliminate Homosexuals?
Because he opposes gay marriage? He does supports civil unions.


On 5/9/05, S. Isaac Dealey wrote:
> >>>I think they're a terrorist organization! They strongly
> >>>support NAMBLA and the KKK but if you have anything to
> >>>do with Christianity they'll come after you with all
> >>>they have.
> 
> > That last part seems okay to me. ;->
> 
> I think the real point here being that the ACLU is defending other
> people's rights against Christians who are dominant and therefore
> opressive. Christians don't need the help to defend their rights --
> Christians are so well off in our current culture that they're the
> ones trying to eliminate the rights of others. If the tables were
> turned and Christianity were in the minority they would be treating
> Christanity differently (and lambasting whatever other dominating
> ideology was trying to eliminate other people's rights, whether that
> was the KKK or something else).
> 
> So I agree with John -- the last part seems okay to me. :)
> 
> I'd feel differently if Christians were opressed. But as it is, last I
> knew the Bush administration had made it okay for charities who
> receive money from the government to fire employees on the basis of
> sexual preference thanks to the "Faith Based Initiative" -- which is
> another word for "More For the Christians Club", since last I knew you
> can't get "faith based initiative" funding for a Wiccan organization,
> no matter how much good their organization might do in the world.
> State pays christian organization to hire employee a -- manager
> discovers that employee a is homosexual and fires employee a -- it's a
> religious charity, they can do that -- but now they're using tax
> dollars to discriminate against homosexuals.
> 
> < Pardon me while I go off the deep end for a minute -- you'll have to
> excuse me, I've been a bit depressed lately. >
> 
> Imo you can do one or the other -- you can discriminate or you can be
> part of the government -- a government that discriminates against its
> populace, no matter how benevolent and benign it appears to be on the
> surface is no better (on principal) than the Nazzis of WWII. Hitler
> wanted to eliminate the Jews, Bush wants to eliminate homosexuals. I
> don't see the difference. We have an advantage that Bush doesn't have
> the kind of power that Hitler had and so he's unable to perform the
> kind of attrocities that Hitler performed, although I'm convinced he
> would if he were able.
>

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