Ok..I see the problem here.

You are fixated on the fact that children are killed and this seems to
be preventing you from analysing the concepts involved here.

When someone encourages children to go into harms way with bullets
flying, tanks rolling and general chaos and mayhem they increase the
chances of the child being killed, yes? Even if soldiers don't mean for
the children to be killed? Like the guy and his son that both got shot
and it was captured on television..with bullets zinging past them as
Palestinians tried to kill the Israeli soldiers and the israeli's fought
back. Caught in the crossfire. 
Murder?
Tragedy yes..Murder? No.

Ok..its wrong that children were killed on either side. Terrible thing.

Now let's move on to the concepts involved: The concepts of Self
Defense..and Murder...

-Gel


-----Original Message-----
From: Will Swain [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 

I still dont understand your point 'Gel. What, someone encourages kids
to throw stones, and then suddenly they are fair game? If you think
thats the only way children die, then you are wrong I'm afraid. You seem
for some reason to be fixating on this stone throwing business. I'm
talking about innocent children being killed, on both sides, and it
seems people are looking for excuses to justify it IF those children are
Palestinian, because someone else made them do it. I'm saying, this
shouldn't be happening to anyone, Isreali, Palestinian, whatever.
Violence it not the answer, from either side.

If I'm a soldier, and a kid chicks a stone at me, and I shoot and kill
that kid, then yes, I AM a murderer. A stone against a gun?

will
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