It has nothing to do with oversight.  It's got to do with giving the money
back to the parent.

- Matt 

-----Original Message-----
From: Larry C. Lyons [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Thursday, October 27, 2005 10:55 AM
To: CF-Community
Subject: Re: Private High School orders students to take down blogs

So what you're saying is that you want the money but not the oversight
that goes along with it. Without that oversight then how do we know if
the kids are learning adequately, or that what their are learning is
acceptable?

In other words he who pays the piper calls the tune.

larry

On 10/27/05, Matthew Small <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Sure, we disagree.  But you are in fact eligible for vouchers, if you have
> kids.  OK, you don't have kids?  Life's unfair sometimes. I don't either,
> and I pay taxes, far more than many people with kids in schools that I am
> paying for.  Life's unfair.
>
> The issue here is that we're talking about the raising of children, which
is
> bigger than the fact you don't drive or don't play in the park.  It's
> helping the parent to decide how his child should be educated, not a way
to
> introduce Big Brother into a private school.
>
> - Matt Small
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Jerry Johnson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Thursday, October 27, 2005 10:25 AM
> To: CF-Community
> Subject: Re: Private High School orders students to take down blogs
>
> Well, we are certainly going to disagree on this one.
>
> That is a very bad analogy.
>
> Federal money should not be spent on private schools who discriminate
> (in the broadest sense of that word).
>
> Vouchers are not tax refunds. If they were, then I should get them back,
> too.
>
> They are public funds earmarked for public schools being redirected to
> private schools.
>
> If we started treating all taxes in this manner, I should get back all
> tax money spent on roads (since I don't drive), all money spent on
> public parks (since I spend my time on my own land), and all money
> spent on courts (since I have never sued anyone.).
>
>
>
> On 10/27/05, Matthew Small <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > I don't think this is a good idea.  Federal money should not dictate
what
> > goes on at a private school,otherwise it's no longer a private school.
> > Federal vouchers are nothing more than giving back to a person what the
> > government took away to begin with, just they help defray the cost of
the
> > parent who wants to send the child to a school of the parent's choice,
> > because the public school is not the parent's first choice.  In other
> words,
> > it's not federal money, it's private money.
> >
> > To say otherwise is like saying that the government can tell Sony what
> kind
> > of music to sell because you spent your tax refund on an Eminem album.
> >
> >
> > - Matt Small
> >
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Gruss Gott [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Sent: Thursday, October 27, 2005 10:04 AM
> > To: CF-Community
> > Subject: Re: Private High School orders students to take down blogs
> >
> > > Jerry wrote:
> > > No Gruss, you are wrong.
> > > If private schools do not have to accept people on basis of race,
> > > religion, test scores, IQ, money, athletic ability or special needs,
> > > then they have a completely unfair advantage in every way.
> >
> > I see your point.  The competition can be within a group of schools
> > that would agree to be "public" schools, while private schools would
> > remain selective and ineligible for vouchers.  Is that the idea?
> >
> > (Let's characterize this as "Jerry is right" rather than "Gruss is
wrong"
> :)
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
>
>
> 



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