Not that I know of. And that was my point really. I was referring to Michael's assertion that he does not live in a racist society.
will -----Original Message----- From: Fleischer, Beth [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 17 December 2001 17:35 To: CF-Community Subject: RE: I'll never understand... I am not aware of any countries in which racism doesn't exist. Are there any? > -----Original Message----- > From: Will Swain [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Monday, December 17, 2001 7:43 AM > To: CF-Community > Subject: RE: I'll never understand... > > Personally, I have no problem with people commenting on countries and > cultures of which they have no direct experience, as long as they do it > with > this fact in mind. You say something about British culture that I consider > to be innacurate and I will point it out to you, but I wouldn't suggest > that > you should never have said it. > > I think that we both live in societies where racism is still an > institutionalised problem. Certainly in this country (UK) there is a > problem. Its very difficult for me to see, because I am white and middle > class. However, my brother is married to a black woman, and she speaks of > racism as normal - just one of those things you have to deal with. I also > have a black foster brother, and again, his experience is that racism is > endemic in our culture. I have little personal experience of the situation > in the States, however I would suspect that there would be a number of > people who would disagree with your analysis. > > Lastly, whether or not you can analyse statistics to help understand a > problem? I don't think this kind of analysis indicates total ignorance, > and > actually can prove quite useful, as long as one remembers that statistics > can lie. > > Will > > -----Original Message----- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: 17 December 2001 16:31 > To: CF-Community > Subject: Re: I'll never understand... > > > One reason why I don't comment on Afghanistan, Israel, etc. I will > comment on our governments activities, but I don't comment on the way > other countries live their lives. > > I have no problem with people criticizing the actions of the government. > I may disagree with ones assertions, but I don't have a problem with > people commenting on it. When someone makes ignorant (as in uneducated) > comments on something that they know literally nothing about, then I > don't care for it. His interpretation does not come from direct > experience but through the filtered and veiled eyes of others. His > disdain for our country seethes deeper than just a loathing for the > government but extends to the people themselves. The comments that he > made are evidence of that. > > I do not believe that we live in a racist society. You can't look at a > bunch of numbers and from that derive the problem. That demonstrates to > me total ignorance. > > Michael Corrigan > Programmer > Endora Digital Solutions > www.endoradigital.com > 630/942-5211 x-134 > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Will Swain > To: CF-Community > Sent: Monday, December 17, 2001 10:00 AM > Subject: RE: I'll never understand... > > > A reasonable point, apart from the fact that to the best of my > knowledge, no > one on this list lives in Afghanistan, yet we all seem to have > opinions on > the quality of life there. > > If you are only qualified to comment on a country, its domestic > politics and > its culture if you live there, we wouldn't be discussing much on here. > > will > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: 17 December 2001 15:49 > To: CF-Community > Subject: Re: I'll never understand... > > > Where is this perception that you have come from? You don't even live > here? > > Michael Corrigan > Programmer > Endora Digital Solutions > www.endoradigital.com > 630/942-5211 x-134 > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Benjamin Falloon > To: CF-Community > Sent: Sunday, December 16, 2001 11:49 AM > Subject: Re: I'll never understand... > > > > A group of people that will cut off a thief's hands, condone the > murder of > family members for adultery, etc... > > Also, I'd have to say that if you could respond with some facts > about > america that are equally disturbing. America, a country glued to the > television set, obsessed with buying things they don't need and > bombing/invading foreign countries a least twice every decade (while > engaged > in numerous conflicts around the globe). The american idea of > justice > is > executing people in the electric chair or dispatching them via a > 'gas > chamber', or the so called 'humane' method of killing - the lethal > injection. A country built on slavery which still mantains a > powerful > racist > undercurrent in its cultural make up. Major racial disparity in the > US > results in the incarceration of African American men at a rate 4 > times > those > incarcerated by the former aparteid nation of South Africa. > > Do you want me to go on? > > Benjamin > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Howie Hamlin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "CF-Community" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Monday, December 17, 2001 3:16 AM > Subject: I'll never understand... > > > > I really don't get it... > > > > A group of people that will cut off a thief's hands, condone the > murder of > family members for adultery, etc... Yet, here's an > > article that really makes me wonder: > > > > > http://www.newsday.com/news/nationworld/world/ny-warpray1216.story?co= > > ny%2 > Dtop%2Dheadlines > > > > I may be naive but I don't think I'll ever understand this way of > thinking... > > > > Howie > > > > > > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Your ad could be here. Monies from ads go to support these lists and provide more resources for the community. http://www.fusionauthority.com/ads.cfm Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
