i make those kinds of decisions based on whether or not i agree with the law. not all laws are just. not all laws make sense. fuck, if i obeyed EVERY law of the land, i think i'd rather not be here.
tw On 11/7/05, Jillian Koskie <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I am not sure that you can say matter of factly that it is not a deterrent. > > It's not something you can quantify. > > There are lots of people the commit murder (or other crimes) knowing full > well that if they are caught, they will be penalized... so for them, no it is > not a deterrent. > > However, your agument could be equally refuted by saying 'more people do not > murder people than DO murder people' --so maybe it is a deterrent. Do I > avoid killing because I'm worried about going to jail? Do I avoid killing > because I'm not a violent person? Do I avoid killing because the voices told > me to have a cup of coffee and write a crystal report this morning instead? > > I'm not saying you are wrong, I'm simply saying that 'people still murder > people' is not an adequate argument toward the concept of 'punishment is not > a detterent'. > > Myself, I can say matter of factly, that I have made decisions in my life > (speeding, drug use, what-have-you) based on the possibility of legal > consequences. > > -- > Jillian > > >> Drug offenses are different in 2 ways: > > > >Since the users of the drugs aren't paying attention anyway it simply > >proves my point that the 'deterrent' is not a deterrent at all... > > > >Same as threatening capital punishment for murder. > > > >or threatening someone with dismemberment for stealing. > > > > > >-- > >will > > > > > >"If my life weren't funny, it would just be true; > >and that would just be unacceptable." > >- Carrie Fisher > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~| Discover CFTicket - The leading ColdFusion Help Desk and Trouble Ticket application http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=48 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:5:180102 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/5 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:5 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.5 Donations & Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
