One more point. We have only ever agreed not to torture LEGAL COMBATANTS.
Dana, I don't want to get in a pissing contest with you, but these guys are not LEGAL COMBATANTS. Plain and simple, no distinguishing mark, uniform or ID card. We can kill or torture at will. I was never shot at by a guy in a uniform. Not once. Tim > -----Original Message----- > From: Dana [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Monday, November 21, 2005 10:37 PM > To: CF-Community > Subject: Re: [politics] just look at the headlines > > > a minor story?????????????????????????? > > My friend, I don't know what to say. Is it a minor story that Cheney > wants to exempt the CIA from restrictions on torture? What about the > use of chemical weapons in Fallujah, is that a minor story? When > Saddam used chemical weapons, was that a minor story? > > My god Sam. Just when I was starting to wonder if you might not have a > mind after all. > > Dana > > On 11/21/05, Sam <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I didn't hear Cheney call him a coward. The one congresswoman that did > > was speaking for a marine, which was a terrible thing to do. Speak for > > your self or have the Marine stand there and make his comment but to > > call a hero a coward and say "well they're not my words" is shameful. > > As for the other Republicans I think they just repeated what Murtha > > said last year. Murtha said he's now changed his mind. They haven't. > > Sounds fair to me. > > > > It did seem Murtha's main reason for changing his mind is because the > > insurgent attacks are growing. He blames that on Abu Ghraib saying if > > we can't win the hearts of the people we've lost the war. Abu Ghraib > > was played to the max by the left leaning press and the anti-war > > movement. Seems like the press is helping us lose. I'm not saying > > ignore what happened but it was a minor story spun into a major abuse > > story. > > > > > > On 11/21/05, Gruss Gott wrote: > > > > > Speaking of spin/anti-spin I had to, again, be appalled by Republicans > > > this weekend, but it could've been Democrats too. > > > > > > You had Cheney, Hastert, and that new Ohio congresswoman call John > > > Murtha a "coward". This is a Vietnam combat veteran with 2 purple > > > hearts and a bronze star. > > > > > > And for what? To have a policy disagreement. > > > > > > Making policy depends on predicting the future which, of course, can't > > > be done accurately. So the debate should include what-ifs, past > > > experiences, and reasoned speculations. > > > > > > Instead, when Mr. Murtha brings forward a respectable strategy (backed > > > up by former Reagan Nat'l Security Advisor Gen Odom) he is attacked > > > personally. > > > > > > Any politician that has done that, or condoned that, should > be impeached. > > > > > > > > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~| Purchase Flash MX Pro from House of Fusion, a Macromedia Authorized Affiliate and support the CF community. http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=57 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:5:183474 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/5 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:5 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.5 Donations & Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
