An argument I saw elsewhere that I find useful sometimes is whether what you are saying is still true if the religious and moral framework requires a sacrifice of a young virgin every full moon.
Once you start to realize that there are many many other moral frameworks out there, you realize that imposing one put the mechanism into place which could impose a worse one. Better just keep the givernment out of such decisions. As for Schiavo... let's not go there; not everyone who questioned the process was acting on an emotional basis. It was a blow for euthanasia and involuntary euthanasia is a very severe deprivation of civil liberties. That is what I believe happened, and yes I know you disagree. Dana On 11/22/05, Gruss Gott <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Dana wrote: > > not at all, I agree with you (mostly) as to adults. Ms Schiavo was a > > ward of the state and that made her a different matter. > > > > I agree, and I also agree that, as a matter of life and death, an > impartial review is warranted. However, that review was granted was > the ruling was in favor of Mr. Schiavo. The problem was people who, > because they disagree with the decision, attempt to discredit the > process. > > > In the exchange that follows this post, is it you or Sam saying that > > inappropriate = morally unacceptable? > > > > Mr. Minutia, of course! Sam doesn't understand that for the gov't to > protect the private rights of adults, it must define "adult". > > His broader point, which he is having trouble articulating but I agree > with, is that the principle of protection of personal liberties, > colloquially referred to as The Golden Rule, is a social and legal > "moral". > > Where we part ways is that he feels that since the gov't is protecting > The Golden Rule, which is technically a moral, it should also protect > all manner of other arbitrary morals (apparently as defined by him). > > I argue that in extending gov't protection beyond The Golden Rule, the > gov't violates that rule, therefore no other morals are ... morally > protectable. > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~| Find out how CFTicket can increase your company's customer support efficiency by 100% http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=49 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:5:183801 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/5 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:5 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.5 Donations & Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
