yes but in other cultures that 12yo will be married. So it isn't
absolute. For that matter how mature is he/she at 18? But you have to
make the distinction somewhere and I think 18 is broadly accepted
anymore.

Dana

On 11/22/05, Gruss Gott <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Dana wrote:
> > It is true that there are cultures where sex with 12 year olds is ok.
>
> This is Sam's confusion: he doesn't understand that this "moral" is
> actually just the enforcement of The Golden Rule.
>
> That is, the perpetrator is preventing that 12 year old from pursuing
> his/her freedom.  We arrive at this conclusion because we've decided
> by reason, rather than culture or religion, that a 12 year doesn't
> have the facilities to make competent sexual decisions.
>
> With gay marriage, for example, both parties are willingly
> participating.  Banning Gay Marriage, therefore, is using the State to
> prevent free will; a violation of The Golden Rule.
>
> Benjamin Franklin called these truths "self-evident".  Apparently not for Sam.
>
> 

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