On 12/4/05, Paul Vernon wrote: > C'mon Sam surely you can do better? I really am interested in your response. > What are your thoughts on the points I raised about the allies in WW 2 for > instance? Or maybe you'd rather tackle the point I raised regarding the > deployment of the military forces from the European nations in Iraq fighting > alongside the US? You choose, I leave it up to you.
If you're talking about "...making such a hash of the politics." I wasn't sure what you meant so left it alone. As for the WWII allies I did address it by saying, "making a move that brings an end to the war doesn't negate everyone else's role" In other words the guy that kicks the tie breaking goal won the game for the team but that doesn't mean the other goals meant nothing or the rest of the team was served no purpose. > As for your point regarding whether it's the conservatives or the liberals > destroying Europe and the US. Who is in power in the US right now? Why is > the economy apparently going down the toilet? Are you saying that the > current administration isn't even a little bit responsible for the > situation? Our economy is soaring, doing much better than the rest of the world even though Bush started with a recession. Excellent job by this administration. > You see, Europe is currently trying to reach beyond the common histories of > the member states in an effort to build strong and lasting relationships > that will ensure our part of the world remains at peace. There will always > be areas where the member states differ, disagree and even fight (hopefully > in a non-military sense) over points of debate. It is part of the evolution > of our political infrastructure. This process is not destroying Europe; on > the contrary, it is making it far stronger than it has ever been before. Sounds like your talking about the European Union while I was talking about individual states. Germany, France and England all have lots of Muslim immigrants that are treated like immigrants. Like you said these countries have long histories and if you're new it's hard to become accepted. After all the UK still has a class system in place, maybe not officially but everyone knows his or her place. > I don't drink because I have a medical condition so I don't bother visiting > many pubs these days. I couldn't comment on what the alcohol fuelled masses > have to say about world affairs. I do know that when I did go to pubs and > clubs they were never the place to have a sensible or reasoned debate about > politics because everyone was far too busy getting hammered! Politics and booze don't mix but when they hear my accent it usually starts right after all the American football questions. > From where I stand, Moore is just as biased as the author of the article you > posted. Both of these positions are dangerous and should be shunned. > > > It's quite entertaining. I imagine you live in a > > sheltered world if you only find the Moore crowd. > > If that is what you think about me after reading my response then you must > have a poor imagination and for that you have my pity. I was actually responding to Gruss. But if you're telling me everyone you speak to thinks that way then there's something unique about your crowd. Honestly you can't say 100% of the people you know think America is wrong to go to Iraq can you? > For the record, my IQ is 179, I read, I listen and I watch - *a lot*. I am > not so weak willed that I follow the opinions of the media blindly. I form > my own opinions based on discussion, the media and my own personal > experiences. My life is and has been far from sheltered. I have had the good > fortune to have lived and worked in the UK, America and mainland Europe > (France and the Netherlands). My 'crowd' if you want to call it that is made > from an eclectic group of people and I count amongst my friends surgeons, > lawyers, lecturers and engineers. They are intelligent, of sound mind and as > far away as possbile from being Michael Moore groupies. Where you interviewed by a group of physiologists? I never understand how people know their IQ. > Oh yes, I am not clueless either. I don't think I said that to you, might have been Gruss again :) ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~| Find out how CFTicket can increase your company's customer support efficiency by 100% http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=49 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:5:185741 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/5 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:5 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.5 Donations & Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
