Larry, I respect his pacifism.  I said I was fine with that.  I don't
respect his disrespect for the men and women that fight to protect his right
to hold that view.



-----Original Message-----
From: Larry C. Lyons [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Friday, December 16, 2005 8:27 AM
To: CF-Community
Subject: Re: Iran

I was disputing that pacifism equates with cowardice. Those who think
so are clueless about courage. I was not arguing about intelligence
here. In the face of the hostility that has been shown over Wayne's
principled stand, I do not think that Wayne can be considered a
coward. i may disagree with his take on pacifism, but I do respect it.

Kevin is simply being clueless about pacifism.

On 12/16/05, G <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Then you have no clue. Was Ghandi a coward? How about Martin Luther
> > King? It takes a hellof a lot more courage to be a pacifist than you
> > realize.
> >
>
> It can take a lot of courage to form a minority opinion, then stick with
it
> no matter what.
>
> But that doesn't lend that position any credence, or make it right,
> intelligent, or realistic. Don't confuse courage with intelligence. There
> are people in my home state of Kansas who have "courageously" defended
their
> minority position that intelligent design should be taught in public
science
> classes. Those religious nuts on the board have been called courageous by
> the religious right in this state.
>
> Wayne's "violence is always wrong!" stance may be courageous, but it's
> simply not practical. I wish it was.
>
>
>
> 



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