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- Matt ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dana" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "CF-Community" <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, December 19, 2005 3:02 AM Subject: Re: Iran > isn't the true christian supposed to turn the other cheek? > > just sayin' > Dana > > > On 12/18/05, Gruss Gott <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> >> > Wayne wrote: >> > called all sorts of names, after being laughed at and derided, the >> > "loonies" are being proved right about things like human rights, the >> > environment, corrupt corporations and governments etc. >> > >> >> I totally agree with you on all of the issues you mention. I'm just >> commenting on pacifism. >> >> A true pacifist must be willing to stand down when they, their family, >> or anyone is physically attacked. If they believe in using violence >> for defense, then they are not a pacifist. >> >> Soldiers, at least western soldiers, are trained to defend themselves, >> their families, and other innocents from violent attack. This is >> quite different from your description of "killing just because someone >> told them to". >> >> You misunderstand. Soldiers are trained at organized defense against >> those that would do you or your wife harm. Put another way, soldiers >> are willing to defend those who cannot or will not defend themselves. >> And they are trained to do this as a team. >> >> If protecting your wife from harm means killing an aggressor, then a >> soldier will do that. If you are also willing to use violence to >> protect your wife, then you and the soldier are no different in your >> willingness to kill. >> >> > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~| Discover CFTicket - The leading ColdFusion Help Desk and Trouble Ticket application http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=48 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:5:188683 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/5 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:5 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.5 Donations & Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
