Here's one that's not about gun control. http://www.new-life.net/faq001.htm
But it has basically the same explanation. - Matt ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dana" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "CF-Community" <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, December 19, 2005 8:25 AM Subject: Re: Iran > Uniquely American isn't it - a scholarly explication of why you should buy > a > gun. I'm afraid I can't get past the gun either. I was disagreeing but > reading until we got to the point where ok, you can defend yourself and > now > let us turn to "thou shalt not kill'? Does he actually say that the bible > says that's ok? I was afraid to look. > > It's actually fairly well-reasoned but it totally lost me at the first > picture. > > However, let's just saw that is is not the way I was taught, but we knew > that... > > Dana > > > > On 12/19/05, Wayne Putterill <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> >> That page is not worthy of comment. >> >> On 12/19/05, Chesty Puller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> > http://www.gac.20m.com/self-def.htm >> > >> > - Matt >> > >> > ----- Original Message ----- >> > From: "Dana" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> > To: "CF-Community" <[email protected]> >> > Sent: Monday, December 19, 2005 3:02 AM >> > Subject: Re: Iran >> > >> > >> > > isn't the true christian supposed to turn the other cheek? >> > > >> > > just sayin' >> > > Dana >> > > >> > > >> > > On 12/18/05, Gruss Gott <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> > >> >> > >> > Wayne wrote: >> > >> > called all sorts of names, after being laughed at and derided, the >> > >> > "loonies" are being proved right about things like human rights, >> the >> > >> > environment, corrupt corporations and governments etc. >> > >> > >> > >> >> > >> I totally agree with you on all of the issues you mention. I'm just >> > >> commenting on pacifism. >> > >> >> > >> A true pacifist must be willing to stand down when they, their >> family, >> > >> or anyone is physically attacked. If they believe in using violence >> > >> for defense, then they are not a pacifist. >> > >> >> > >> Soldiers, at least western soldiers, are trained to defend >> themselves, >> > >> their families, and other innocents from violent attack. This is >> > >> quite different from your description of "killing just because >> someone >> > >> told them to". >> > >> >> > >> You misunderstand. Soldiers are trained at organized defense >> > >> against >> > >> those that would do you or your wife harm. Put another way, >> > >> soldiers >> > >> are willing to defend those who cannot or will not defend >> > >> themselves. >> > >> And they are trained to do this as a team. >> > >> >> > >> If protecting your wife from harm means killing an aggressor, then a >> > >> soldier will do that. If you are also willing to use violence to >> > >> protect your wife, then you and the soldier are no different in your >> > >> willingness to kill. >> > >> >> > >> >> > > >> > > >> > >> > >> >> > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~| Discover CFTicket - The leading ColdFusion Help Desk and Trouble Ticket application http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=48 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:5:188691 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/5 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:5 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.5 Donations & Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
