Uniquely American isn't it - a scholarly explication of why you should buy a gun. I'm afraid I can't get past the gun either. I was disagreeing but reading until we got to the point where ok, you can defend yourself and now let us turn to "thou shalt not kill'? Does he actually say that the bible says that's ok? I was afraid to look.
It's actually fairly well-reasoned but it totally lost me at the first picture. However, let's just saw that is is not the way I was taught, but we knew that... Dana On 12/19/05, Wayne Putterill <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > That page is not worthy of comment. > > On 12/19/05, Chesty Puller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > http://www.gac.20m.com/self-def.htm > > > > - Matt > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Dana" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > To: "CF-Community" <[email protected]> > > Sent: Monday, December 19, 2005 3:02 AM > > Subject: Re: Iran > > > > > > > isn't the true christian supposed to turn the other cheek? > > > > > > just sayin' > > > Dana > > > > > > > > > On 12/18/05, Gruss Gott <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > >> > > >> > Wayne wrote: > > >> > called all sorts of names, after being laughed at and derided, the > > >> > "loonies" are being proved right about things like human rights, > the > > >> > environment, corrupt corporations and governments etc. > > >> > > > >> > > >> I totally agree with you on all of the issues you mention. I'm just > > >> commenting on pacifism. > > >> > > >> A true pacifist must be willing to stand down when they, their > family, > > >> or anyone is physically attacked. If they believe in using violence > > >> for defense, then they are not a pacifist. > > >> > > >> Soldiers, at least western soldiers, are trained to defend > themselves, > > >> their families, and other innocents from violent attack. This is > > >> quite different from your description of "killing just because > someone > > >> told them to". > > >> > > >> You misunderstand. Soldiers are trained at organized defense against > > >> those that would do you or your wife harm. Put another way, soldiers > > >> are willing to defend those who cannot or will not defend themselves. > > >> And they are trained to do this as a team. > > >> > > >> If protecting your wife from harm means killing an aggressor, then a > > >> soldier will do that. If you are also willing to use violence to > > >> protect your wife, then you and the soldier are no different in your > > >> willingness to kill. > > >> > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~| Find out how CFTicket can increase your company's customer support efficiency by 100% http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=49 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:5:188685 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/5 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:5 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.5 Donations & Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
