Does one need to know why the sky is blue? No, but research has been done and an answer was determined. Not my fault I asked a question about it.
- Matt ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ray Champagne" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "CF-Community" <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, December 28, 2005 4:19 PM Subject: Re: Maybe one day we'll allow them to get married. > You said it, dead horse. I'm willing to forgo a long arduous agrument > where we'll both end up with the same views we came in with. I've got a > wife who'll gladly take up those kinds of discussions with me anytime. :) > > I'd be surprised if Gel answered your questions about research. Does > one really need research to tell them that animal sex probably hurts the > animal? > > Chesty Puller wrote: >> Actually, I let the comment drop because I didn't feel like getting into >> that argument. There was a jibe in the initial title because the article >> itself delves into that argument and that fact is that I myself have >> actually predicted on this list that such utter nonsense would come to >> play >> via the argument for homosexual marriage. And here I am, right about it. >> >> What I really find interesting is that your response to zoophilia is >> about >> the same as many people's towards homosexuality. Logic aside, there are >> many people who just don't think that homosexual marriage makes any sense >> with the same emotion that you make clear in your post. However, that's >> as >> far as I feel like discussing this issue because it's a dead horse. I >> will >> decline to answer your direct question because my own feelings on any >> marriage outside of male-female relationships are probably well-known or >> are >> at least inferred with the responses that I've posted today to certain >> threads. >> >> However, there was no question about the homosexual marraige in the >> response >> to Gel. He insinuated that he knew of research that indicated that this >> kind of relationship was actually harmful to the animal. That's what >> really >> interests me - the fact that this research exists and the actual outcome. >> Is it harmful because the animal was physically hurt? Is it emotional >> hurt? >> Where in the world did they find test subjects? Why does Gel know about >> it? >> >> Those are the hard-hitting questions I have for Gel. >> >> - Matt >> >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Ray Champagne" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> To: "CF-Community" <[email protected]> >> Sent: Wednesday, December 28, 2005 3:47 PM >> Subject: Re: Maybe one day we'll allow them to get married. >> >> >> >>>OK, fair enough, but I still think you're implying something ridiculous >>>here...I noticed you didn't respond to the marriage comment, either. I >>>mean, you put a reference to marriage in the subject, then played th >>>passive-aggressive card (or actually, in this case it would be >>>aggressive-passive), saying "I didn't make any statements". But that's >>>not really what I wanted to know about anyways. >>> >>>To put it bluntly: Are you saying that if we let two Homosexshuls get >>>married, we should let Fifi and her owner get married, too? >>> >>>Chesty Puller wrote: >>> >>>>I didn't make any statements, I asked why was it harmful to the dog. It >>>>probably is harmful, but I don't know why it is, and I was asking Gel to >>>>explain why it was since he seemed to know about the research. >>>>Sometimes >>>>questions are meant to be answered as they are asked. >>>> >>>>- Matt >>>> >>>> >>>>----- Original Message ----- >>>>From: "Ray Champagne" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>>>To: "CF-Community" <[email protected]> >>>>Sent: Wednesday, December 28, 2005 2:52 PM >>>>Subject: Re: Maybe one day we'll allow them to get married. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>>Dude, are you serious? Are you asking why sexually assaulting a dog is >>>>>harmful to the dog? Would you like it? >>>>> >>>>>And I'm sorry, but if you're fishing at comparing homosexual marriage >>>>>to >>>>>man and dog, it just is not comparable. One's the conscious decision >>>>>of >>>>>two willing persons, the other is abuse of an animal, plain and simple. >>>>>They just aren't the same, and I get tried of hearing that argument... >>>>> >>>>>Chesty Puller wrote: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>>Does this research exist? How would you get it? Why is it harmful? >>>>>> >>>>>>- Matt >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>----- Original Message ----- >>>>>>From: "Vivec" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>>>>>To: "CF-Community" <[email protected]> >>>>>>Sent: Wednesday, December 28, 2005 2:40 PM >>>>>>Subject: Re: Maybe one day we'll allow them to get married. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>>Yup. >>>>>>>Soon people will be marrying their dogs. >>>>>>>*smirk* >>>>>>>Why should ANYTHING be seen as immoral after all? >>>>>>> >>>>>>>The fact that the writer didn't touch on the research which says such >>>>>>>interactions are harmful to the animal and should fall under Cruelty >>>>>>>to animals is interesting. >>>>>>> >>>>>>>On 12/28/05, Chesty Puller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>http://www.slate.com/id/103801/ >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>- Matt >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>> >>> >> >> > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~| Protect Your PC from viruses, hackers, spam and more. 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