Sorry that, should have read: Not my fault I asked a question about it if 
you don't want to talk about it.

- Matt


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Chesty Puller" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "CF-Community" <[email protected]>
Sent: Wednesday, December 28, 2005 4:34 PM
Subject: Re: Maybe one day we'll allow them to get married.


> Does one need to know why the sky is blue?  No, but research has been done
> and an answer was determined.  Not my fault I asked a question about it.
>
> - Matt
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Ray Champagne" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "CF-Community" <[email protected]>
> Sent: Wednesday, December 28, 2005 4:19 PM
> Subject: Re: Maybe one day we'll allow them to get married.
>
>
>> You said it, dead horse.  I'm willing to forgo a long arduous agrument
>> where we'll both end up with the same views we came in with.  I've got a
>> wife who'll gladly take up those kinds of discussions with me anytime. 
>> :)
>>
>> I'd be surprised if Gel answered your questions about research.  Does
>> one really need research to tell them that animal sex probably hurts the
>> animal?
>>
>> Chesty Puller wrote:
>>> Actually, I let the comment drop because I didn't feel like getting into
>>> that argument. There was a jibe in the initial title because the article
>>> itself delves into that argument and that fact is that I myself have
>>> actually predicted on this list that such utter nonsense would come to
>>> play
>>> via the argument for homosexual marriage.  And here I am, right about 
>>> it.
>>>
>>> What I really find interesting is that your response to zoophilia is
>>> about
>>> the same as many people's towards homosexuality.  Logic aside, there are
>>> many people who just don't think that homosexual marriage makes any 
>>> sense
>>> with the same emotion that you make clear in your post.  However, that's
>>> as
>>> far as I feel like discussing this issue because it's a dead horse.  I
>>> will
>>> decline to answer your direct question because my own feelings on any
>>> marriage outside of male-female relationships are probably well-known or
>>> are
>>> at least inferred with the responses that I've posted today to certain
>>> threads.
>>>
>>> However, there was no question about the homosexual marraige in the
>>> response
>>> to Gel.  He insinuated that he knew of research that indicated that this
>>> kind of relationship was actually harmful to the animal.  That's what
>>> really
>>> interests me - the fact that this research exists and the actual 
>>> outcome.
>>> Is it harmful because the animal was physically hurt?  Is it emotional
>>> hurt?
>>> Where in the world did they find test subjects?  Why does Gel know about
>>> it?
>>>
>>> Those are the hard-hitting questions I have for Gel.
>>>
>>> - Matt
>>>
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>> From: "Ray Champagne" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>> To: "CF-Community" <[email protected]>
>>> Sent: Wednesday, December 28, 2005 3:47 PM
>>> Subject: Re: Maybe one day we'll allow them to get married.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>OK, fair enough, but I still think you're implying something ridiculous
>>>>here...I noticed you didn't respond to the marriage comment, either.  I
>>>>mean, you put a reference to marriage in the subject, then played th
>>>>passive-aggressive card (or actually, in this case it would be
>>>>aggressive-passive), saying "I didn't make any statements".  But that's
>>>>not really what I wanted to know about anyways.
>>>>
>>>>To put it bluntly: Are you saying that if we let two Homosexshuls get
>>>>married, we should let Fifi and her owner get married, too?
>>>>
>>>>Chesty Puller wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>I didn't make any statements, I asked why was it harmful to the dog. It
>>>>>probably is harmful, but I don't know why it is, and I was asking Gel 
>>>>>to
>>>>>explain why it was since he seemed to know about the research.
>>>>>Sometimes
>>>>>questions are meant to be answered as they are asked.
>>>>>
>>>>>- Matt
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>----- Original Message ----- 
>>>>>From: "Ray Champagne" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>>>>To: "CF-Community" <[email protected]>
>>>>>Sent: Wednesday, December 28, 2005 2:52 PM
>>>>>Subject: Re: Maybe one day we'll allow them to get married.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>Dude, are you serious?  Are you asking why sexually assaulting a dog 
>>>>>>is
>>>>>>harmful to the dog?  Would you like it?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>And I'm sorry, but if you're fishing at comparing homosexual marriage
>>>>>>to
>>>>>>man and dog, it just is not comparable.  One's the conscious decision
>>>>>>of
>>>>>>two willing persons, the other is abuse of an animal, plain and 
>>>>>>simple.
>>>>>>They just aren't the same, and I get tried of hearing that argument...
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Chesty Puller wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Does this research exist? How would you get it?  Why is it harmful?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>- Matt
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>----- Original Message ----- 
>>>>>>>From: "Vivec" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>>>>>>To: "CF-Community" <[email protected]>
>>>>>>>Sent: Wednesday, December 28, 2005 2:40 PM
>>>>>>>Subject: Re: Maybe one day we'll allow them to get married.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Yup.
>>>>>>>>Soon people will be marrying their dogs.
>>>>>>>>*smirk*
>>>>>>>>Why should ANYTHING be seen as immoral after all?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>The fact that the writer didn't touch on the research which says 
>>>>>>>>such
>>>>>>>>interactions are harmful to the animal and should fall under Cruelty
>>>>>>>>to animals is interesting.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>On 12/28/05, Chesty Puller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>http://www.slate.com/id/103801/
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>- Matt
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>
> 

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