I'm dropping it, plain and simple. Chesty Puller wrote: > Sorry that, should have read: Not my fault I asked a question about it if > you don't want to talk about it. > > - Matt > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Chesty Puller" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "CF-Community" <[email protected]> > Sent: Wednesday, December 28, 2005 4:34 PM > Subject: Re: Maybe one day we'll allow them to get married. > > > >>Does one need to know why the sky is blue? No, but research has been done >>and an answer was determined. Not my fault I asked a question about it. >> >>- Matt >> >> >>----- Original Message ----- >>From: "Ray Champagne" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>To: "CF-Community" <[email protected]> >>Sent: Wednesday, December 28, 2005 4:19 PM >>Subject: Re: Maybe one day we'll allow them to get married. >> >> >> >>>You said it, dead horse. I'm willing to forgo a long arduous agrument >>>where we'll both end up with the same views we came in with. I've got a >>>wife who'll gladly take up those kinds of discussions with me anytime. >>>:) >>> >>>I'd be surprised if Gel answered your questions about research. Does >>>one really need research to tell them that animal sex probably hurts the >>>animal? >>> >>>Chesty Puller wrote: >>> >>>>Actually, I let the comment drop because I didn't feel like getting into >>>>that argument. There was a jibe in the initial title because the article >>>>itself delves into that argument and that fact is that I myself have >>>>actually predicted on this list that such utter nonsense would come to >>>>play >>>>via the argument for homosexual marriage. And here I am, right about >>>>it. >>>> >>>>What I really find interesting is that your response to zoophilia is >>>>about >>>>the same as many people's towards homosexuality. Logic aside, there are >>>>many people who just don't think that homosexual marriage makes any >>>>sense >>>>with the same emotion that you make clear in your post. However, that's >>>>as >>>>far as I feel like discussing this issue because it's a dead horse. I >>>>will >>>>decline to answer your direct question because my own feelings on any >>>>marriage outside of male-female relationships are probably well-known or >>>>are >>>>at least inferred with the responses that I've posted today to certain >>>>threads. >>>> >>>>However, there was no question about the homosexual marraige in the >>>>response >>>>to Gel. He insinuated that he knew of research that indicated that this >>>>kind of relationship was actually harmful to the animal. That's what >>>>really >>>>interests me - the fact that this research exists and the actual >>>>outcome. >>>>Is it harmful because the animal was physically hurt? Is it emotional >>>>hurt? >>>>Where in the world did they find test subjects? Why does Gel know about >>>>it? >>>> >>>>Those are the hard-hitting questions I have for Gel. >>>> >>>>- Matt >>>> >>>> >>>>----- Original Message ----- >>>>From: "Ray Champagne" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>>>To: "CF-Community" <[email protected]> >>>>Sent: Wednesday, December 28, 2005 3:47 PM >>>>Subject: Re: Maybe one day we'll allow them to get married. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>>OK, fair enough, but I still think you're implying something ridiculous >>>>>here...I noticed you didn't respond to the marriage comment, either. I >>>>>mean, you put a reference to marriage in the subject, then played th >>>>>passive-aggressive card (or actually, in this case it would be >>>>>aggressive-passive), saying "I didn't make any statements". But that's >>>>>not really what I wanted to know about anyways. >>>>> >>>>>To put it bluntly: Are you saying that if we let two Homosexshuls get >>>>>married, we should let Fifi and her owner get married, too? >>>>> >>>>>Chesty Puller wrote: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>>I didn't make any statements, I asked why was it harmful to the dog. It >>>>>>probably is harmful, but I don't know why it is, and I was asking Gel >>>>>>to >>>>>>explain why it was since he seemed to know about the research. >>>>>>Sometimes >>>>>>questions are meant to be answered as they are asked. >>>>>> >>>>>>- Matt >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>----- Original Message ----- >>>>>>From: "Ray Champagne" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>>>>>To: "CF-Community" <[email protected]> >>>>>>Sent: Wednesday, December 28, 2005 2:52 PM >>>>>>Subject: Re: Maybe one day we'll allow them to get married. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>>Dude, are you serious? Are you asking why sexually assaulting a dog >>>>>>>is >>>>>>>harmful to the dog? Would you like it? >>>>>>> >>>>>>>And I'm sorry, but if you're fishing at comparing homosexual marriage >>>>>>>to >>>>>>>man and dog, it just is not comparable. One's the conscious decision >>>>>>>of >>>>>>>two willing persons, the other is abuse of an animal, plain and >>>>>>>simple. >>>>>>>They just aren't the same, and I get tried of hearing that argument... >>>>>>> >>>>>>>Chesty Puller wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>Does this research exist? How would you get it? Why is it harmful? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>- Matt >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>----- Original Message ----- >>>>>>>>From: "Vivec" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>>>>>>>To: "CF-Community" <[email protected]> >>>>>>>>Sent: Wednesday, December 28, 2005 2:40 PM >>>>>>>>Subject: Re: Maybe one day we'll allow them to get married. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>Yup. >>>>>>>>>Soon people will be marrying their dogs. >>>>>>>>>*smirk* >>>>>>>>>Why should ANYTHING be seen as immoral after all? >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>The fact that the writer didn't touch on the research which says >>>>>>>>>such >>>>>>>>>interactions are harmful to the animal and should fall under Cruelty >>>>>>>>>to animals is interesting. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>On 12/28/05, Chesty Puller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>http://www.slate.com/id/103801/ >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>- Matt >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>> >>> >> > >
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