Well, I'm hispanic (or at least half). I think you all know where I stand on the issue. I think that many of them truly believe that it's ok to come here illegally with the "intention" of becoming legal later on. As for defense, there is none... Legally at least. They rely on indifference and massive volume to work in their favor. Many police departments here in Phoenix still just let them go without involving Immigration. They just don't have the man power to deal with the sheer numbers of them.
-----Original Message----- From: Raymond Camden [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, March 25, 2006 6:20 PM To: CF-Community Subject: Re: immigration question Guys, I'm definitely in agreement here, but can we get back on topic? (And I drifted off topic myself in my first post.) Can someone explain the defense of illegal activity? Do many Hispanics in this country really feel this way?? On 3/25/06, Jeff Garza <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > But it's not just "cheap labor" that they're taking. Sure they're > working the fields of California and Arizona, but they are also > becoming general contractors and construction workers. On a radio > talk show here recently an american electrician was complaing that 10 > years ago, he was able to make a decent wage, but that wage has now > more than halved mainly due to the influx of cheap mexican labor > coming across the border illegally. He's having trouble finding a > job... The employers are hiring illegals and paying them under the > table... Also, if you cut off the hand that feeds, mainly the > employers, you'll find an even worse situation... Those that came here to find jobs will turn to crime instead... > > I agree that being an illegal in this country should be a felony with > deportation as the minimum sentence and incarceration for repeat > offenders... I'm just growing tired of the compassionate response to > these people. If life sucks so bad in their own countries, they > should band up and make things better there. > > Fed up... > > Jeff Garza > > -----Original Message----- > From: Jim Davis [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Saturday, March 25, 2006 3:06 PM > To: CF-Community > Subject: RE: immigration question > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Jeff Garza [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Sent: Saturday, March 25, 2006 4:09 PM > > To: CF-Community > > Subject: RE: immigration question > > > > At what cost Paul? Illegal immigrants are one of the largest drains > > on our economy... Each year they "export" billions of dollars back > > to Mexico and Central America that are untaxed. We already pay for > > their health care > > Of course they couldn't export those funds if people did hire and pay them. > Mexico is exporting cheap labor pure and simple. > > You want to curb that issue make it a felony to hire and pay illegal > immigrants. I see no percentage in making existing as an illegal > immigrant a felony. > > Honestly I don't see a "nice" way to keep people from trying to get > in. The only thing that will do that is for the quality of life in > Mexico to reach American/Canadian standards. (Sending back illegals > without their thumbs might also work but I doubt we'll go there.) > > There is some truth, however, to the idea that the illegal immigrants > are taking jobs for rates that American's find unacceptable. We take > advantage of that legally with all of the border-hugging factories > (where the cheap labor lives in Mexico and the factory executives live just over the border). > > Perhaps there is a way to take advantage of the labor internally. I > really don't know what the actual balance between increased numbers of > the lower class and increased cheap labor is. > > Jim Davis > > > > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~| Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:5:201570 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/5 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:5 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.5 Donations & Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
