On 3/25/06, Gruss Gott <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > cRay wrote:
> > I agree - we all break the law in ways - but we don't go pretending
> > its ok.
>
> Sure we do, and we don't even try to pretend.  Did you roll through a
> stop sign today (not come to a full stop)?  Then you broke the law.
> Are you turning yourself in?  No.  Therefore you think the fact that
> you broke the law is ok.   You're not even pretending.

But if I get caught, I get a ticket. And I can't say it's unfair. My
whole point to this thread was that the Hispanics are saying it's
unfair to enforce a law. (I hate to use an entire race like that, but
the original article did.)

> And it's a good analogy because that's exactly what the Mexicans are
> saying.  Yes, we're breaking the law, but the law is stupid because we
> serve a public good - that the public clearly wants.  So change the
> law.

Um, it's a bad analogy. Sure going through a stop sign is a 'small'
thing, but I bet a lot of people die every year from that. I don't
consider it a stupid law at all. Actually, while I will admit to going
over the speed limit, I never roll through stop signs. I've got 3
kids. I know how fast they can run out into the road.

> And when the US government suddenly threatens to begin enforcing a law
> it hasn't really, just because there's too many Mexicans around, then,
> sure, a race can feel attacked.  Are they doing it because of the
> Irish?  No.  So it's a direct attack on Mexicans.

Question. How many illegal irish do you think there are in this
country? Is there -really- a problem of illegal Irish immigration?
Have I missed the news on the "Irish Problem" somehow? it is racist to
say this is a Mexican problem when a vast majority of the illegals are
Mexicans?

> Again, the point is this: legal and illegal are outcomes of a choice
> already made.  That is, the law on the books follows a choice.  In
> this case US citizens have made a choice: we like the cheap products
> and services that Mexicans provide and therefore now it's time for the
> law to follow that choice.

Hey, my choice is enforce the law. If I have to pay more, fine. At
least I know the guys picking the fruits are getting a living wage.

-r

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