Good info.

My next question is this:

How damaged are the petroleum refineries?
How damaged were the ports?
How damaged are the farms?
How damaged are the homes and farmhouses?
How damaged are the ancillary businesses?

Were they damaged by the hurricane, by the storm surge, or by the
flooding from overtopped levees?

These are three completely different problems, with three completely
different solutions.

As an aside, how will a levee protect the ports? They are, by
definition, at sea level.

With no levees in place, how often will the areas be flooded? (Days
per year, damage to existing structures).

I am suggesting that there may be better, sustainable solutions for
these issues. What would be the damage from another flood? What can we
do to mitigate that damage (build differently? protect individual
buildings with levees?

As for recreating the delta, we don't need to remove the levees on the
entire Mississippi. I have read plans for recreating the conditions of
a flood in the last few miles (introducing man-made silt just below
New Orleans) This would be a long-term, sustainable, affordable
solution to rebuild the barrier islands.

As for the "feelings" of the residents, how much money should we sink
into anissue before rethinking? At what point does the federal
government start making intelligent decisions with my money, and stop
throwing good money after bad?  There is just not enough money to do
everything the country needs to do. Should this money come out of
veterens benefits? From money to rebuild New Orleans? From government
payoffs to Halliburton? It may be the right thing to do, but don't we
need to think it through, first?

My question still stands.

Is rebuilding the levees in Placquemines the best idea?


On 4/10/06, Russel Madere <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Wrong!  There are no major international ports there, but there are many 
> ports used by the petroleum industry.  These are not just the big oil 
> companies, but the smaller contractors who services the rigs and pipelines.  
> If you write off any of south Lousiana, you can say hello to $5.00 a gallon 
> gasoline.  Part of the way the "big oil" keeps the price down is to place the 
> service and support companies as close to the source as possible.
>
> Fixing these levees will not put money in the big oil companies, it will keep 
> the small businesses that rely on the proximity to the Gulf of Mexico and the 
> oil fields there to stay in business.  If they move, they have to close down. 
>  They won't be profitable then.
>
> >
> >My understanding is that there are no major ports in Placquemines.
> >There is oil refining, but that should not be majorly affected by
> >flooding (if built correctly). And giving the oil companies more money
> >to pad their pockets also rubs me the wrong way.
> >
>
> I thought all of the Katrina related damage there was from the storm surge, 
> not the Mississippi.  To truly solve the problem with hurricanes in south 
> Louisiana, the wetlands need to be rebuilt.  The only true way to do that is 
> to destroy the levees on the Mississippi from Cairo. Illinois south.  There 
> is not enough sediment in the river to rebuild the wetlends properly 
> otherwise.  Doing that, however, will kill all of the riverine commerce now 
> on the river.
>
> >Remember that we are not talking about flooding from the sea, but from
> >seasonal flooding of the Mississippi.
> >
> >Is the federal government paying for the rebuilding of "ground zero"?
> >I didn't think so. I thought that was a privately funded project.
> >
>
> Probably not an order of magnitude difference but a difference.  But, how 
> much domestic petroleum is piped through or supported by lower NYC?  How much 
> fresh, domestic seafood is brought on shore in lower NYC?  We are discussing 
> apples and oranges here.  Different area and diffeent industries.
>
> >As for the tax base, how about this. I will take the federal taxes
> >from lower NYC for the month, and you take the federal taxes from
> >Placquemines Parish for the month, and we'll see what the difference
> >is.
> >
>
> Let me ask this, how would you feel if you were told you had to move because 
> the government refused to fix a problem it created?  What if you found out 
> you lived on a superfund site that the feds caused and they refused to clean 
> it up?  This is a similar analogy.  The feds caused the problem by building 
> the levees in the first place.  Now they have the responsibility to keep them 
> up.
>
> 

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