My mother has been a teacher and a principal for years - In my experience sometimes the school allows outside groups to use the facilities after filling out an application, I don't think they should be able to (or are able to) pick and choose the groups. If they meet the criteria, they meet the criteria. If the students fit the criteria (which has nothing to do with religion) then they should be allowed to be a group that uses the school after hours. At my mothers last two schools one did not need a teacher to supervise these groups at all.
If the students wanted to form a school club (which I am sure is the case here), which involved religion, which they would have needed a teacher to supervise, then they would not have been permitted to do so. --Beth, Pseudo usenet cop Merlin MTB, BikeE AT, RANS gliss, Trek R200, Kickbike Owned by Kavik (Samoyed Boy) and Toklat (Keeshond Boy) Anchorage, Alaska ----- Original Message ----- From: "Nick McClure" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "CF-Community" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Tuesday, January 29, 2002 6:11 AM Subject: RE: Church and State > Gary, my argument has not been about prayer during school. > > It has been about groups using school facilities after school hours. I > don't think people should be kept from doing this because of their religion. > > At 12:59 AM 1/29/2002 -0600, you wrote: > >What do you mean, "right to peaceably assemble"? Of course you have that > >right, it is not abridged in any way. But why should I have to leave a > >public place that I go to to learn because you want to hold a prayer > >service? Take that to the church. Why do you need to pray out loud in a > >school? Are you just so focused on the rhetoric that you "cannot pray", as > >spouted by the sensationalist Right, that you miss that you can pray - just > >not to where it makes me or others uncomfortable in a public setting? Why is > >it so important that you pray in front of people who may not agree with your > >religious beliefs? > > > >Example: You are at a school. I come in, sit behind you and start muttering > >a prayer to some god, no idea which, which you do not worship. I do this for > >a few minutes with several of my friends, the majority of the class in fact. > >We do this everyday. Our religion teaches us that those who do not believe > >in our god are doomed to hell and we are always right. Period. We think you > >have a pagan religion, much different from hours and you just do not fit in. > >Your religion seems backward to us. The media has painted it as backward and > >the people as non-conformists. > > > >How would you feel? > > > >-Gary > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: Nick McClure [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > > Sent: Monday, January 28, 2002 12:33 PM > > > To: CF-Community > > > Subject: Re: Church and State > > > > > > > > > Your may be right. > > > > > > Strange, I dislike Christianity but I feel that all people have the same > > > rights. One of those is the right to peaceably assemble. oh well. > > > > > > At 12:27 PM 1/28/2002 -0600, you wrote: > > > >Nick, > > > > > > > > You're wasting your breath man. It's not about prayer in the > > > >classroom or even about religion in schools. She even said it herself, > > > >it is NOT about religion in school, it's about Christianity in schools. > > > >The debate is based on a dislike of Christianity. The dislike of > > > >Christianity stems from a dislike of people like Robertson and Falwell > > > >and the Christian fundamentalism that was fought in the 50's and 60's. > > > >They see them and the Crusades and say that Christianity is bad and > > > >lumps all Christians with them. It's disingenuous and close minded and > > > >not really worth the time. > > > > > > > > > > ______________________________________________________________________ Macromedia ColdFusion 5 Training from the Source Step by Step ColdFusion http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/0201758474/houseoffusion Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
